Can't defeat 2 Babau (lvl7), tried everything. HELP!

[ApathicAlpaca]

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[Koromo]

Well, i dont actualy know what your party is capable of... but I just had my cavalier charge em and quickly bring 1 down. Then had everyone focus the last one.... had fulll buffs going (blur, armor, shield, etc.). Party was myself(cavalier), wenduag, the shaman lady, oracle, ember, and the crazy wizard.

Edit: forgot to mention, was on hard dificulty myself.

[LeThall]

Use Mirror Image in your Tanks to prevent some hits. It helps a lot in early game, also use potion, scrolls/spells to increase your AC like Barkskin, Shield of Faith and Reduce Person

[Viper]

Something like Grease always seems to help. They can't hit you if the cant get up.

[Not a Bard]

Originally posted by Viper:

Something like Grease always seems to help. They can't hit you if the cant get up.

My wizard PC feels like a grease bot. I feel like almost every fight this early, the answer is grease

[ApathicAlpaca]

OK I somehow defeated them with A LOT of work.

1 room further there are 2 even more broken mobs, Brimorak, whose fireballs just wipe out every member of my party with max 2 casts (1 is enough to reduce tank to 20% HP).

I am starting to think this game just presents you with unfair numbers to make you suffer and nothing more. The balance of mob groups is horribly off, some are easy, some are tough, some are completely utterly broken. I cant see myself ever beating that room and I think you need to do so to progress the quest.

Well, that's it for me, gamebreaker.

[la_nague]

what is your party?

To have any fun in these games i really heavily suggest you have at least one guy that stacks their AC to the moon.

For example your camilla could have over 35 AC plus more AC from short time buffs.
Then they have to roll around 20 to hit, usually.

[ApathicAlpaca]

Sure, on level 5. My tanks have 22 and thats with heavy armor and stuff.
I tried another room, around 12 mobs and 2 of them conjure 100 swarms of insects.
Yup, cant kill more than 1-2 before full wipe. Grease, pits, everything.

There must be some massive huge bug in my save because I played Pillars and Divinity and I dont hear 100,000 players screaming in rage over this absolute unfair mess. So must be something on my side somehow. Cant figure it out. Do you get more than level 5 somehow before entering Garrison??

[Marcos_DS]

Originally posted by ApathicAlpaca:

OK I somehow defeated them with A LOT of work.

Congrats!

1 room further there are 2 even more broken mobs, Brimorak, whose fireballs just wipe out every member of my party with max 2 casts (1 is enough to reduce tank to 20% HP).

I would use a scout to check for enemies. Resist fire (or resist fire communal) certainly helps in fights against brimoraks (or fire elementals). Same as resist lighting was mandatory vs. the whisps in Kingmaker.

I am starting to think this game just presents you with unfair numbers to make you suffer and nothing more. The balance of mob groups is horribly off, some are easy, some are tough, some are completely utterly broken. I cant see myself ever beating that room and I think you need to do so to progress the quest.

If you play for the first time, i don't think core difficulty is the right choice. If you compare difficulties to other games, i would say normal-daring is hard, core is nightmare, and hard/unfair is nightmare+. Just try a setting thats challenging but not frustrating, there are plenty of settings (and you can customize them even further)

[CHAO$$$]

Op has to be bait right

[Dao of Yakitori]

Originally posted by ApathicAlpaca:

OK I somehow defeated them with A LOT of work.

1 room further there are 2 even more broken mobs, Brimorak, whose fireballs just wipe out every member of my party with max 2 casts (1 is enough to reduce tank to 20% HP).

I am starting to think this game just presents you with unfair numbers to make you suffer and nothing more. The balance of mob groups is horribly off, some are easy, some are tough, some are completely utterly broken. I cant see myself ever beating that room and I think you need to do so to progress the quest.

Well, that's it for me, gamebreaker.

Those fights are meant to be taken with preparation: buffs on your party, good positioning, control spells on enemies, using geography to kite separate them, and some good old kiting in some cases.

For example, fireballs wiping your party implies that you haven't worked on your positining and didn't use ressources like Protection from Evil, Protection from Energy, Resist Energy...

There are tons of ressources that you have to use to survive and win fights. If you want to play the game like an action-rpg, you might want to lower the difficulty.

[Dao of Yakitori]

Originally posted by Marcos_DS:

If you play for the first time, i don't think core difficulty is the right choice. If you compare difficulties to other games, i would say normal-daring is hard, core is nightmare, and hard/unfair is nightmare+. Just try a setting thats challenging but not frustrating, there are plenty of settings (and you can customize them even further)

Yeah core difficulty is the wrong choice if he wants to jump in and just win. It's not this kind of game. Strategy is necessary. Using Y and hovering over enemies is also necessary.

[Morgian]

What will he say in Drezen, in the room where 8 brimoraks fireball your party during round 1?

As Marcos said, core difficulty is actually hard. You meet mobs with AC 41 at level 8, or an archmage at the same level, who gets your party with rift of ruin (8th level spell). Better to dial it down until you have the hang of it. The upper difficulties are made for min/max players who know the best options in their sleep.

[ApathicAlpaca]

Lowered to Daring.

Yeah sorry, I spread my characters OF COURSE (fireball still hits everyone), there is no fire resistance anywhere to be had, neither spells nor potions, I use area disable/sleep whatever (it misses vs the fire mobs since insane stats), I tried luring them around corners... everything you can think of. I dont have to remind you it's level 5 heroes so no cool uber gear.

I used all my potions and scrolls of healing (that heal f*cking 4 points when any enemy strike deals 10+). Can't be done.
Now I tried re-train, of course you cant change the start class of your lore heroes so screw that. Mercs are 8k a piece, so screw that I guess.

Cant see any way forward tbh.

[Viper]

Originally posted by ApathicAlpaca:

Sure, on level 5. My tanks have 22 and thats with heavy armor and stuff.
I tried another room, around 12 mobs and 2 of them conjure 100 swarms of insects.
Yup, cant kill more than 1-2 before full wipe. Grease, pits, everything.

There must be some massive huge bug in my save because I played Pillars and Divinity and I dont hear 100,000 players screaming in rage over this absolute unfair mess. So must be something on my side somehow. Cant figure it out. Do you get more than level 5 somehow before entering Garrison??

its not unfair. You just have to use your abilities better. Buff your guys. Take feats that make you able to hit easier like Weapon Focus or precise shot or raises your AC like Shield focus. If your playing core difficulty and not doing these things...your not ready for that difficulty level.

[ApathicAlpaca]

Jesus OK since I'm obviously disabled and dumb, let's end the discussion here. Nothing that I didnt think of or done already. Gotta try new game with maybe full healer main or something.