Water Elemental 1 shots party

[Flip]

Any idea how to beat the elemental? Even playing on normal it 1 shots all melee characters (I have 4) including my main (Cavalier), Paladin lady and the Shaman lady plus pet as it's melee seems to deal dmg to all in melee range. Since it does so much AoE I cannot see a way to possibly heal through it (which the online "guides" suggest). At lvl 2 now.

[Cirayu]

What I did was the following:
Tank was Shaman ( as she could get 1 higher AC due to Dex on armour + buckler)
Had Paladin use Demoralize to keep the enemy shaken or w/e it does.
and had the 2 other people range it, Which consisted of: a Fighter specced into Longbows ( a companion) -
Me ( a Water Kineticist - Blood, but it's immune to wrack)

This was on Core difficulty. - I made sure to:
Use potion of Shrink person on the tank, and the spellcaster (Kineticist) so the tank gets More AC and the Spellcaster gets + to hit.
I used Enlarge on the Longbow user because without it the damage would always be 0 ( not always, but a lot because reduction)

I'd say, Make sure you have high AC and keep the elemental Debuffed with Demoralise,and potentially the light of angels which you may or may not have, - as if the elemental is in range of it, it dazzles them

[Naked Granny]

Well, you will have to spam heals to get through it, probably, but there are a few tactics you can take advantage of to make it easier.

Cast Resist Energy: Cold on your tank. Half of his damage is cold damage, which resist energy will negate.

Cast Shield Of Faith on your tank (it overlaps the ring of protection you might have picked up earlier). If it's Seelah, make sure she's got her shield equipped because she has the Shield Focus feat which increases the AC her equipped shield provides by +1. Although tempting, don't cast Enlarge Person on her for the fight, because it will reduce her AC. Activate the Defensive Fighting mode (it's a basic tactical ability in your "A"bilities tray on your hotbar). Seelah won't be hitting anything, probably, while she's in defensive mode, but that's ok because everyone else will be able to whittle the elemental down while she's tanking.

Camellia starts as a shaman at level 1, but if you level her as a shaman for level 2, she can pick a hex. Select the Protective Luck hex. Then cast it on your tank every round (it only lasts for one round at this level unless you sustain it using chant, or if you are a witch yourself, you could cast it and then cackle to sustain it).

Keep in mind that, unlike in the tabletop game, in the video games like Kingmaker and Wrath, drinking a potion from your quick slots only costs you a Move action. Which means you can drink a potion and still attack in the same round.

This is assuming the default character party. If you're an uber tank character, tactics may vary.

[Flip]

Thanks! It still one shotted the shaman but the Demoralize + Large on the zen archer (plus I repurposed my melee cavalier into a longbowman for this fight) plus some bless spells worked enough to get it before it downed all my party.

Thank you!

[Flip]

Originally posted by Aunt Tony:

Well, you will have to spam heals to get through it, probably, but there are a few tactics you can take advantage of to make it easier.

Cast Resist Energy: Cold on your tank. Half of his damage is cold damage, which resist energy will negate.

Cast Shield Of Faith on your tank (it overlaps the ring of protection you might have picked up earlier). If it's Seelah, make sure she's got her shield equipped because she has the Shield Focus feat which increases the AC her equipped shield provides by +1. Although tempting, don't cast Enlarge Person on her for the fight, because it will reduce her AC. Activate the Defensive Fighting mode (it's a basic tactical ability in your "A"bilities tray on your hotbar). Seelah won't be hitting anything, probably, while she's in defensive mode, but that's ok because everyone else will be able to whittle the elemental down while she's tanking.

Camellia starts as a shaman at level 1, but if you level her as a shaman for level 2, she can pick a hex. Select the Protective Luck hex. Then cast it on your tank every round (it only lasts for one round at this level unless you sustain it using chant, or if you are a witch yourself, you could cast it and then cackle to sustain it).

Keep in mind that, unlike in the tabletop game, in the video games like Kingmaker and Wrath, drinking a potion from your quick slots only costs you a Move action. Which means you can drink a potion and still attack in the same round.

This is assuming the default character party. If you're an uber tank character, tactics may vary.

Problem there was already picked my hex (Slumber) which in this fight of course didn't do much but managed to kill it with Bless + Enlarge + Demoralize. The shaman still got 1 shotted at full health despite Bears Endurance, Reduce Person and Shield of Faith but thats ok, killed the bugger

[omegazeda]

Just prebuff send one troop with serious wound spell use that on elemental, then get other chaps to attack. Make sure your melee guys move and attack one at a time, don't have more than 1 toon at melee range fighting elemental.

[Naked Granny]

Originally posted by Flip:

Problem there was already picked my hex (Slumber) which in this fight of course didn't do much but managed to kill it with Bless + Enlarge + Demoralize. The shaman still got 1 shotted at full health despite Bears Endurance, Reduce Person and Shield of Faith but thats ok, killed the bugger

Ha. Well. I mean. She's a shaman. And not a particularly tank-optimized one at that.

Just because she starts out with a rapier and a buckler doesn't mean she really should be in melee past the prologue.

Honestly, of all the pre-made companions in the game, Seelah is a mediocre tank at best, and there's only one or two other companions who should ever be in melee range with anything - and you won't meet them for a while. Woljif is... a minor exception, in the sense that he's a TWF rogue, so he has to be in melee, but he definitely should be trying to not draw attention to himself while he's there.

[Naked Granny]

Originally posted by omegazeda:

Just prebuff send one troop with serious wound spell use that on elemental, then get other chaps to attack. Make sure your melee guys move and attack one at a time, don't have more than 1 toon at melee range fighting elemental.

This is the elemental in the prologue. You won't have your level 2 spells until the end of the prologue, and that would be Inflict Moderate, not Serious. If you're talking about the scroll - the save DC on that is so low, the elemental is basically guaranteed to only take half damage from it. You're better off actually casting Inflict Moderate yourself instead.

[Azearus]

Simple tactics in few steps.
1. Take some one with high move speed(i used hunter pet)he will be used as a bait
2. Give your team ranged weapons/use auto attack cantrips
3. Run your bait to room and when ele focus his aggro on bait start running around table
4. When bait running his laps around table your team shoot ele
5. Ele dead
6. Profit

Super simple :) And you no lose any spells and potions.

[Flip]

All my melee characters died in 1 shot tbf including my main. A matter of too high dmg for my meagre health pool. Buffed ranged worked enough to get past the DR. Many of the spells mentioned I don't have, no spell casters yet apart from 1 hex on Shaman and some cantrips so limited to what potions and scrolls I find.

[Flip]

Originally posted by LordHakuro:

Simple tactics in few steps.
1. Take some one with high move speed(i used hunter pet)he will be used as a bait
2. Give your team ranged weapons/use auto attack cantrips
3. Run your bait to room and when ele focus his aggro on bait start running around table
4. When bait running his laps around table your team shoot ele
5. Ele dead
6. Profit

Super simple :) And you no lose any spells and potions.

Very good idea actually!

[Tjorn]

1. Take high Dex character (Lann or Wenduag), take off his armor and give him heavy crossbow (or stay with bow, but it's slower). Other should wait in another room.
2. Go behind a table in the room with elemental in real time mode.
3. Cosplay Mongolian archer around the table until elemental is dead.

[Soft Lockpick]

I used several weapon buffs (like sacred weapon) and then had someone spam command till empty to disable the elemental.

They fall down just as well as anyone else.

[Flip]

Originally posted by Tjorn:

1. Take high Dex character (Lann or Wenduag), take off his armor and give him heavy crossbow (or stay with bow, but it's slower). Other should wait in another room.
2. Go behind a table in the room with elemental in real time mode.
3. Cosplay Mongolian archer around the table until elemental is dead.

I assume benny hill music is mandatory?

[Vagabond]

Potions can be very helpful. By this point, you should have found potions of barkskin and shield of faith. Use them both on Seelah and put her in defense mode. Have her tank-meaning have her engage first and ensure the elemental is attacking her. She is not meant to do damage but hold the line in this battle. If she hits, great!

For damage, Lann should be spamming his ki powers. Also, if he doesn't have a composite longbow yet, get one. Meaning, go explore things more until you get him one. That extra strength damage is critical. If you have a potion of cat's grace, it will help him tremendously.

Depending on your MC, they can get in there, too, and even Camellia, but the key is to make sure they are not being targeted. The elemental uses cleave. If it doesn't land a hit, it doesn't get the extra attack(s).

Sadly, this is one of those fights where your MC is important. You have only 4 characters, maybe an animal companion. Or more than one if you've been getting jiggy with the multiclassing. Your party just might not be built for this fight especially if your main is not a damage dealer

And to an extent, with how powerful the elemental is, you're going to need a little RNG luck. RAW, that thing is meant to be a challenge for a 5th level party of four, and they're throwing it at a 2nd level party.

[m o i k e e]

I had over 25 attempts at this guy before resorting to a long game of ring around the roses with a ranged party member, most of the time missing shots so it took aaaages. What can you get from looting him? Oh yeah, nothing :D