Shadows at level 3?

[ColonoscoPete]

Ah yes let's throw a level 3 party against enemies that are completely immune to physical damage, and can do upwards of 8 strength damage in a single hit, or just one shot characters with a 10 with touch attacks so armor doesn't even help either...
WHO thought that was a good idea?

[Star Paladin]

Ya, I just encountered this. WHAT THE HECK??? I was a GM for years, and this is just crazy frigging stuff to throw at lvl 3 characters on a path they can't really avoid to boot. I had hope this new version of PF would be more balanced, but nooooooooooooo obviously not.

I can only imagine what my RL group would have done if I had thrown this at them.

[king_of_jamaica]

By the time you fight Shadows, you should have one or two Cold Iron weapons.

[LeThall]

Use the talking Weapon, it can damage Shadows (you can find him during the tiefling quest)

[droggen]

Originally posted by LeThall:

Use the talking Weapon, it can damage Shadows (you can find him during the tiefling quest)

Originally posted by king_of_jamaica:

By the time you fight Shadows, you should have one or two Cold Iron weapons.

Pretty much these two topic closed.

[Mr.Hmm]

Yeah you should pretty much have alot of Cold Iron weapons for many types and the talking weapon by the time you meet them...

[Caelinus]

Every one of my characters either had cold iron/+1 or spells. Also Camellia has the ability to turn her weapon into Ghosttouch.

[S]

Originally posted by Star Paladin:

Ya, I just encountered this. WHAT THE HECK??? I was a GM for years, and this is just crazy frigging stuff to throw at lvl 3 characters on a path they can't really avoid to boot. I had hope this new version of PF would be more balanced, but nooooooooooooo obviously not.

I can only imagine what my RL group would have done if I had thrown this at them.

It's not that bad. You have a shaman that can make her weapon ghost touch, you can have at least everyone kitted with a +1 weapon at this point, and if you don't, you have a least 2 leading up to that point, plus you can use effects like cure X wounds to nuke them.

Just because you can't roll a foe doesn't mean it's too much, just means you have to be the barest of prepared to handle it.

[ChopSuey™]

'Know thine enemy.'

[ColonoscoPete]

Originally posted by king_of_jamaica:

By the time you fight Shadows, you should have one or two Cold Iron weapons.

Odd then that Seelah with a cold iron ''longsword'' coulnd't touch them

[Cutlass Jack]

Your second companion comes with a cold iron weapon, and there should be a popup reminding you of this when you encounter something you need to hit with one.

[Averagedog]

ahem... I CAST MAGIC MISSILE AT THE DARKNESS! MAGIC MISSILE! MAGIC MISSILE! MAGIC MISSILE!

[Jonkenden]

You need +1 magical weapons, cold iron doesn`t work. Ghost touch works.

[MtvYoloSwag]

Yeah that was incredibly annoying.
I used a torch dealing 1 damage while my mammoth tanked it, luckily.

[AlexnChaos]

it's not so much being able to damage them that's the problem, that I can work around, it's having the damn things drain strength from everyone, double so when no of my ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ make the save throw for it, come on Seelah, this is what your supposed to be GOOD at /facepalm

[ColonoscoPete]

Everyone talking about cold iron weapons, don't seem to realize that it's not a DR problem, the shadows are IMMUNE to physical damage.