Bug. Fighting Defensively not working

[Zarquon]

no extra AC provided when the conditions are met for fighting defensively.

Bonus Bug. "show simplified spell descriptions" in options seems to do nothing whether toggled on or off.

[Uzkin]

You have to hit an enemy in melee first, this activates fighting defensively for 1 round.

[Zarquon]

Originally posted by Uzkin:

You have to hit an enemy in melee first, this activates fighting defensively for 1 round.

thanks, i missed the attack

[TripSin]

Originally posted by Uzkin:

You have to hit an enemy in melee first, this activates fighting defensively for 1 round.

HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO KNOW THIS??????

[PocketPsycho]

Originally posted by Zarquon:

Originally posted by Uzkin:

You have to hit an enemy in melee first, this activates fighting defensively for 1 round.

thanks, i missed the attack

This isn't true, literally just missed an attack with Seelah with Fighting Defensively on, the buff showed on the character and her AC got the +3 from Fighting Defensively showing on her character sheet.

Honestly if you had to hit to receive the buff this would be the worst ability in the game.

[TripSin]

What if you don't make an attack that round??? Does that mean you can't activate Fighting Defensively??? Can it work with non melee attacks??? I tried to use it with my sorc when she casted a spell and I didn't see the to hit penalty... I can not figure out why it's sometimes activating and sometimes not.....

[PocketPsycho]

Originally posted by TripSin:

What if you don't make an attack that round??? Does that mean you can't activate Fighting Defensively??? Can it work with non melee attacks??? I tried to use it with my sorc when she casted a spell and I didn't see the to hit penalty... I can not figure out why it's sometimes activating and sometimes not.....

If you don't make an attack you don't get the buff.
Just tested with Lann and he received the buff after attacking with his bow.
Was your Sorc's spell a roll to attack spell? Like Ray of Frost? Or an auto-hit spell like Magic Missile? I don't have a caster to test with right now but I'd assume that it would only work for spells that need to roll to hit the target. If it works with spells at all.

[TripSin]

Originally posted by PocketPsycho:

Originally posted by TripSin:

What if you don't make an attack that round??? Does that mean you can't activate Fighting Defensively??? Can it work with non melee attacks??? I tried to use it with my sorc when she casted a spell and I didn't see the to hit penalty... I can not figure out why it's sometimes activating and sometimes not.....

If you don't make an attack you don't get the buff.
Just tested with Lann and he received the buff after attacking with his bow.
Was your Sorc's spell a roll to attack spell? Like Ray of Frost? Or an auto-hit spell like Magic Missile? I don't have a caster to test with right now but I'd assume that it would only work for spells that need to roll to hit the target. If it works with spells at all.

It was Jolt, the electric cantrip. I just tested it again and Fighting Defensively doesn't seem to be doing anything for her casting attack or when she is attacked. I also tried it with magic missiles and it doesn't seem to do anything with or being attacked after that either :(

I'm getting really tired of things not working like they are described in this game. It's so frustrating...

[kiloromeo]

Casting a Spell is not "making an attack". It is casting a Spell, that you can then maybe attack with depending on what Spell.

Fighting Defensively is with Weapons or Natural Weapon Attacks ...

[PocketPsycho]

Originally posted by TripSin:

Originally posted by PocketPsycho:

If you don't make an attack you don't get the buff.
Just tested with Lann and he received the buff after attacking with his bow.
Was your Sorc's spell a roll to attack spell? Like Ray of Frost? Or an auto-hit spell like Magic Missile? I don't have a caster to test with right now but I'd assume that it would only work for spells that need to roll to hit the target. If it works with spells at all.

It was Jolt, the electric cantrip. I just tested it again and Fighting Defensively doesn't seem to be doing anything for her casting attack or when she is attacked. I also tried it with magic missiles and it doesn't seem to do anything with or being attacked after that either :(

I'm getting really tired of things not working like they are described in this game. It's so frustrating...

Magic Missile doesn't have an attack roll requirement, so it's no surprise that FD didn't work for it. Jolt does have an attack roll, so the fact that it didn't work for it means it probably doesn't work for any attack spells, not really a surprise or a concern.

[TripSin]

Originally posted by PocketPsycho:

Originally posted by TripSin:

It was Jolt, the electric cantrip. I just tested it again and Fighting Defensively doesn't seem to be doing anything for her casting attack or when she is attacked. I also tried it with magic missiles and it doesn't seem to do anything with or being attacked after that either :(

I'm getting really tired of things not working like they are described in this game. It's so frustrating...

Magic Missile doesn't have an attack roll requirement, so it's no surprise that FD didn't work for it. Jolt does have an attack roll, so the fact that it didn't work for it means it probably doesn't work for any attack spells, not really a surprise or a concern.

If it doesn't work on attack spells it should say so. It says it works "on attack rolls". Spells (ranged touch attacks) have attack rolls, do they not? Therefore, it should either work with these spells or say otherwise.

So yes, I would say it's a concern. Because I'm tired of important descriptions being left out or things being improperly described in this game with a lot of different mechanics to deal with.

What player wants to have a game not properly describe things??? What video game developer wants to design a game that does not accurately convey information to the player???