Summoning?

[Askie]

Does anyone know how the summoning will be? The summoning in Kingmaker wasn't the best imo, and was curious how it is in this

[ZirzoR]

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Instead of pelt you with high damage spells i shall summon 3 wolves, 5 redcaps, I shall now Eat up the action economy even tho these monsters have almost 0 chance to hit you because you are an actually strong monster

And that's why i said it was bad in the first place. I was wondering if it was better in this, without needing something else.

Summoning isn't bad just because you say so, if you're uninformed on the subject you shouldn't make such statements.

Summoning isn't a DPS Spell, it will never in a hundred years out damage a real character, summoning is utility, its for tanking, meatshields, and to deal with "adds" you'll never hit a boss with summons, that's not what they're for, just like a companion is never going to outdps a real character, they're half a character for a reason.

I suggest you learn how summoning works in most D&D/Pathfinder games before you label it as thusly, it was the same in pillars of eternity, it was the same in baldur's gate, nothing you can summon in those games is ever going to be able to kill a boss or have enough damage by itself to be considered a DPS spell.

Just ugh.

[Askie]

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And that's why i said it was bad in the first place. I was wondering if it was better in this, without needing something else.

Summoning isn't bad just because you say so, if you're uninformed on the subject you shouldn't make such statements.

Summoning isn't a DPS Spell, it will never in a hundred years out damage a real character, summoning is utility, its for tanking, meatshields, and to deal with "adds" you'll never hit a boss with summons, that's not what they're for, just like a companion is never going to outdps a real character, they're half a character for a reason.

I suggest you learn how summoning works in most D&D/Pathfinder games before you label it as thusly, it was the same in pillars of eternity, it was the same in baldur's gate, nothing you can summon in those games is ever going to be able to kill a boss or have enough damage by itself to be considered a DPS spell.

Just ugh.

i... i literally just said i wanted some variety...

J u s t u g h

[ZirzoR]

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Snip..

Just ugh.

i... i literally just said i wanted some variety...

J u s t u g h

Druid Spells:

Summon Nature's Ally I
Summon Nature's Ally II
Summon Nature's Ally III
Summon Nature's Ally IV
Summon Nature's Ally V
Summon Nature's Ally VI
Summon Nature's Ally VII
Summon Nature's Ally VIII
Summon Nature's Ally IX

Summon Elder Worm

Summon Small Elemental
Summon Medium Elemental
Summon Large Elemental
Summon Huge Elemental
Summon Greater Elemental
Summon Elder Elemental

Elemental Swarm

These are the summons just for Druid, without a sub-class.

Cleric: Elemental Summons aswell.

Some of these change depending on your alignment, which means they double up on variety, guess you didn't know that.

Summon Monster I
Summon Monster II
Summon Monster III
Summon Monster IV
Summon Monster V
Summon Monster VI
Summon Monster VII
Summon Monster VIII
Summon Monster IX

Animate Dead
Create Undead

Wizards can do all of the above, for the most part, then you have lich path in WoTR and other paths that can get summons.

So little amounts of summons, I wanted atleast a 100! ooooo!

Just UGH.