Angel mythic quest: Devastation Help please (Spoilers)

[Artimise Flare]

Okay, so I am trying to figure out how to progress this question line

I need to find a way to get into the echo of Deskari's lair, however, based on what I have read, I may have messed something up. I already killed minagho, so getting the crusader hero gal (I can't remember her name,Yriel?) to help me there isn't going to work. I already killed the aasamir that was torturing slaves, so he's out as well as a potential source for a key. Apparently there's a third option but I have no idea what that is.

I've been smashing my head against the wall for the better part of an hour or two trying to figure out what I need to do.

Can someone please help me!

UPDATE: For those that needed help with this.

There apparently are 3 ways to get a key

1. When you enter the flesh market, if you are looking north on the map, directly north east there is a large demon selling Aasimir slaves. You must KILL this demon vendor, afterwards you must speak with the 2 Aasimir slaves. They will inform you that the Echo of Deskari tried to buy them, but didn't like the price. They will then point you towards a chest where you can get the key.

Do NOT buy their freedom, this will NOT allow you to trigger this critical set of dialogue to have the key unveiled.

2. Before you go for your final confrontation with Minagho, speak with Yaniel and bring her with you to finish off Minagho

3. The last is if you were successful with recruiting Berengar the wandering elderly crusader to your cause, you can bring him with you where you'll get an option to let me cause a ruckus or a distraction. I am not familiar with this particular option but it was listed as one by another poster in this thread.

[アンジェル]

What about the other angel's help? For me she sniffed out the lair. Alternatively the wandering crusader who could join you is ready to be bait.

[Artimise Flare]

Originally posted by アンジェル:

What about the other angel's help? For me she sniffed out the lair. Alternatively the wandering crusader who could join you is ready to be bait.

I have already found the lair, I just need the keys apparently to get in. Neither Targona or the Herald have been able to help. I am unfamiliar with this other crusader you're talking about though unfortunately

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by Artimise Flare:

Originally posted by アンジェル:

What about the other angel's help? For me she sniffed out the lair. Alternatively the wandering crusader who could join you is ready to be bait.

I have already found the lair, I just need the keys apparently to get in. Neither Targona or the Herald have been able to help. I am unfamiliar with this other crusader you're talking about though unfortunately

The key is the same key which the Hand of the Inheritor used to open the portal. Is there an issue with that? Usually accompaning Targona to the spot opens up the option right away to enter the lair when you have the key with you. You did not put the key in your personal chest, dropped or sold it by accident?

[Artimise Flare]

Originally posted by アンジェル:

Originally posted by Artimise Flare:

I have already found the lair, I just need the keys apparently to get in. Neither Targona or the Herald have been able to help. I am unfamiliar with this other crusader you're talking about though unfortunately

The key is the same key which the Hand of the Inheritor used to open the portal. Is there an issue with that? Usually accompaning Targona to the spot opens up the option right away to enter the lair when you have the key with you. You did not put the key in your personal chest, dropped or sold it by accident?

I honestly do not remember, I didn't put it in my stash i don't think though I can check.

[aqa]

There are 3 keys, but you can miss them all.

- take Yaniel with you to fight Minagho
- have the Aasimar slaves point to a key when you save them at the Flesh Market
- let Berenguer cause trouble

You only need 1, the other two are for optional minor loot. If you missed them all I think you'll either have to accept it, or go back to an earlier save.

[Artimise Flare]

Originally posted by aqa:

There are 3 keys, but you can miss them all.

- take Yaniel with you to fight Minagho
- have the Aasimar slaves point to a key when you save them at the Flesh Market
- let Berenguer cause trouble

You only need 1, the other two are for optional minor loot. If you missed them all I think you'll either have to accept it, or go back to an earlier save.

wow that seems incredibly stupid that they'd screw you that hard if that's the case

[アンジェル]

There is one more if you decided to kill Suture

[Artimise Flare]

Originally posted by aqa:

There are 3 keys, but you can miss them all.

- take Yaniel with you to fight Minagho
- have the Aasimar slaves point to a key when you save them at the Flesh Market
- let Berenguer cause trouble

You only need 1, the other two are for optional minor loot. If you missed them all I think you'll either have to accept it, or go back to an earlier save.

Where is Berenguer? I don't think I ever got the option to take him with me or anything and he's nowhere in my camp

[Artimise Flare]

Originally posted by アンジェル:

There is one more if you decided to kill Suture

He's currently being held by a slaver in the slave market that refuses to sell to me sadly

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by Artimise Flare:

Originally posted by aqa:

There are 3 keys, but you can miss them all.

- take Yaniel with you to fight Minagho
- have the Aasimar slaves point to a key when you save them at the Flesh Market
- let Berenguer cause trouble

You only need 1, the other two are for optional minor loot. If you missed them all I think you'll either have to accept it, or go back to an earlier save.

Where is Berenguer? I don't think I ever got the option to take him with me or anything and he's nowhere in my camp

If you managed to convince him to join the crusaders, he would have come along with Yaniel and Targona.

Originally posted by Artimise Flare:

Originally posted by アンジェル:

There is one more if you decided to kill Suture

He's currently being held by a slaver in the slave market that refuses to sell to me sadly

After making enough reputation you can bail him out for gold.

[Artimise Flare]

Originally posted by アンジェル:

Originally posted by Artimise Flare:

Where is Berenguer? I don't think I ever got the option to take him with me or anything and he's nowhere in my camp

If you managed to convince him to join the crusaders, he would have come along with Yaniel and Targona.

well damn, looks like I only had 2 options then [/spoiled]

[Artimise Flare]

Originally posted by aqa:

There are 3 keys, but you can miss them all.

- take Yaniel with you to fight Minagho
- have the Aasimar slaves point to a key when you save them at the Flesh Market
- let Berenguer cause trouble

You only need 1, the other two are for optional minor loot. If you missed them all I think you'll either have to accept it, or go back to an earlier save.

So I went back to my save where I rescue the slaves (I didn't speak to the aasimer that wanted to free them prior to this) and when I bought their freedom they didn't say anything about a key. DId I do something wrong here?

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by Artimise Flare:

Originally posted by aqa:

There are 3 keys, but you can miss them all.

- take Yaniel with you to fight Minagho
- have the Aasimar slaves point to a key when you save them at the Flesh Market
- let Berenguer cause trouble

You only need 1, the other two are for optional minor loot. If you missed them all I think you'll either have to accept it, or go back to an earlier save.

So I went back to my save where I rescue the slaves (I didn't speak to the aasimer that wanted to free them prior to this) and when I bought their freedom they didn't say anything about a key. DId I do something wrong here?

That question is better answered by aqa or someone else who experienced it. I can only assume it has something to do with how it turns out, when you send the freshly bought slaves to the other Aasimar. It becomes later on a follow up quest, but I did not get an extra key or whatsoever since I sent mine to my camp..

[aqa]

Originally posted by Artimise Flare:

Originally posted by aqa:

There are 3 keys, but you can miss them all.

- take Yaniel with you to fight Minagho
- have the Aasimar slaves point to a key when you save them at the Flesh Market
- let Berenguer cause trouble

You only need 1, the other two are for optional minor loot. If you missed them all I think you'll either have to accept it, or go back to an earlier save.

So I went back to my save where I rescue the slaves (I didn't speak to the aasimer that wanted to free them prior to this) and when I bought their freedom they didn't say anything about a key. DId I do something wrong here?

I killed the slaver to free them, not sure if that makes a difference but I think it does. And you need a skill check (I think perception) while talking to the aasimar slaves. They then reveal a chest a few meter to the right with a key in it.

And while you're at it.

You "meet" a somewhat imporant NPC in Echo's lair, who can either live or die. I am not 100% sure how to keep him alive, my current best guess is to stop attacking just before you win.

[Artimise Flare]

Originally posted by aqa:

Originally posted by Artimise Flare:

So I went back to my save where I rescue the slaves (I didn't speak to the aasimer that wanted to free them prior to this) and when I bought their freedom they didn't say anything about a key. DId I do something wrong here?

I killed the slaver to free them, not sure if that makes a difference but I think it does. And you need a skill check (I think perception) while talking to the aasimar slaves. They then reveal a chest a few meter to the right with a key in it.

And while you're at it.

You "meet" a somewhat imporant NPC in Echo's lair, who can either live or die. I am not 100% sure how to keep him alive, my current best guess is to stop attacking just before you win.

Yes, that makes all the difference. You have to KILL the slaver that is selling the Aasimer, do not buy them. Only then will they give you the option to talk about the Echo of Deskari for the key. TYVM, you saved me from having to re-do roughly 6-8 hours of play, instead I only am losing roughly 3-4 hours