Don't listen haters, your game is great ! Thank you Owlcat <3

[Moonteg]

Hi everyone !

I see so many toxic posts here on this forum and I'm thinking about poor guys from Owlcat crunching to fix bugs asap while being harrased by some sad dudes.

Don't listen theses people, your game is simply AWESOME. A new reference in the genre. Thank you Owlcat for all your work <3

Sure there are some bugs to be fixed but nothing devastating and in the end, what is important is the game's core, which is simply excellent. I'm enjoying it a lot since the launch and, judging by the Steam reviews, I'm not the only one ;) Toxic people here are not representing the Pathfinder Wotr's fanbase. Most people are glad to play the game.

Good luck for your hard work, it must be really tough to deploy so much fixes since the beginning. We trust in you, your game is an absolute masterpiece, one of the best C-RPG ever made. Be proud, we love you <3

[Craiberk]

Shadowfox님이 먼저 게시:

Eh I agree that the party and character introductions are better in NWN 2 but I didn't really mind being thrown in the deep end in WOTR. I enjoy both games for different reasons I suppose. You have also given me the urge to play NWN 2 again so thanks for that! :)

I am glad you decided to remember past glories. =)
Assuming you have time for a nostalgia trip, don't forget to stop by KotORs 1 and 2, Jade Empire, VTM:B, OG NWNs, Fallouts 1 and 2, DA:O and many more I am not remembering on the spot that are also very good.

[アンジェル]

Craiberk님이 먼저 게시:

lydocia님이 먼저 게시:

Going "this is ♥♥♥♥ and no matter what you say, I'm right" just isn't discussion. It's the text-based equivalent of self-satisfying.

Conversely, would you also argue that one ought to keep being respectful when obviously having been disrespected? I would argue no, you shouldn't.
Well, from a perspective of one of those people with "text-based self-satisfaction" tendencies, I can tell you that I felt mighty disrespected when I first tried making an Oradin I wanted to make and as the first thing, getting my character to cast Life Link on themselves. And starting to repeatedly damage and heal themselves. Even though they were at full HP. I felt even more disrespected when I deleted my Oradin, created a Cavalier.... and couldn't charge. Upon having manually limped to my enemy on round 2, I tried to use a Feat that I took that allows your horse to also hit an enemy.... I found that it does nothing.

Dude, I payed money for this ♥♥♥♥. Not a small amount, either. I understand needing to be respectful, but if I got swindled and presented with a clearly unpolished product under the guise of a product worth 100$, I'll only feel the need to respect developers' feelings when they clean up their own mess.

You sound more like you need a therapist, if you get offended like that by game mechanics or bugs. That behaviour you showing in your post is not what can be considered healthy.

That put aside, you also clearly are misunderstanding your buy. Not only can you refund your purchase when you have valid reasons to do so, no one could charge you 100$ whatever currency for the content which is already available. If you bought the big pack, then you clearly bought rights to play the game in the future including the season pass. That would be a different state of the game again.

I hope this gives you comfort, knowing you could pay less for what you can get right now.

The topic already offrailed far too much from a thank you thread to a thread where some people clearly just want to rant. This is surely not what the original poster intended. Valid complaints and feedback are okay. But that meaningless ranting is helping no one.

[Alistair]

Craiberk님이 먼저 게시:

Shadowfox님이 먼저 게시:

Eh I agree that the party and character introductions are better in NWN 2 but I didn't really mind being thrown in the deep end in WOTR. I enjoy both games for different reasons I suppose. You have also given me the urge to play NWN 2 again so thanks for that! :)

I am glad you decided to remember past glories. =)
Assuming you have time for a nostalgia trip, don't forget to stop by KotORs 1 and 2, Jade Empire, VTM:B, OG NWNs, Fallouts 1 and 2, DA:O and many more I am not remembering on the spot that are also very good.

Ah already went on a little kotor 1 and 2 binge recently. Even after all these years I still love them!

[Zaressa]

Soft Lockpick님이 먼저 게시:

lydocia님이 먼저 게시:

Oh, come on. Don't be an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Not that you already weren't, but this is low even for the precedent you've set. He's commuinicating clearly and his point is coming across. Don't diss someone for having English as a second language, ffs.

Apparently the language barrier is in YOUR way too. I was saying the language barrier was keeping him from understanding my not so subtle instructions related to the phrase "Did somebody order sausage" and how to find out what it meant. Because I'm not going to go into more detail on that joke for his sake.

It was not a jab at him at all. The language barrier is legitimately keeping him from understanding what I'm saying without me laying it out more explicitly.

Christ, some people. You did have another soap box under there.

Nope, you are just being a ♥♥♥♥ 'cos it makes you feel high and mighty.

btw Tornment was so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ boring that I could not get over 2 hours of that game and I tried three times. So as a fact it had bad writing and story flow and it is indisputable cos I am right so just move on.

[Butcher]

Soft Lockpick님이 먼저 게시:

Butcher님이 먼저 게시:

And which way that would be?

If you said this about Daggerfall then yes, maybe, due to the scale and partial random generation. Morrowind though? Nothing special in exploration department.

The difference between morrowind and daggerfall was the 3d. Daggerfall did procedural and big, but not very deep. Morrowind got close enough to that scope for most players, but with more tailored content, and it was 3d exploration.

I wouldn't argue Morrowind was bigger at all. I'd argue it hit a balance between scale (Daggerfall maximized this) and polish that kept the feel of truly open world for most players.

I thought you meant levitation and town being the same instance as the world, which changed in Oblivion/Skyrim. Truth is, with each next main TES, starting from Daggerfall, series lost features. In Morrowind you could kill everyone, but in Oblivion they added invunerable NPCs. Daggerfall had multple (5) endings, but Morrowind+ had only single ending.

And I don't get what do you mean by tailored content, Gothic, Risen, Kingdom Come, Dying Light etc all are kinda similar to Morrowind meaning everything is handcrafted.

[TripSin]

アンジェル님이 먼저 게시:

You sound more like you need a therapist, if you get offended like that by game mechanics or bugs. That behaviour you showing in your post is not what can be considered healthy.

That put aside, you also clearly are misunderstanding your buy. Not only can you refund your purchase when you have valid reasons to do so, no one could charge you 100$ whatever currency for the content which is already available. If you bought the big pack, then you clearly bought rights to play the game in the future including the season pass. That would be a different state of the game again.

I hope this gives you comfort, knowing you could pay less for what you can get right now.

The topic already offrailed far too much from a thank you thread to a thread where some people clearly just want to rant. This is surely not what the original poster intended. Valid complaints and feedback are okay. But that meaningless ranting is helping no one.

アンジェル you are so ridiculous. I get that you don't like that a lot of other people are voicing their frustrations about a game you like. I've been there. But to try to dismiss all of their complaints just because you don't want to hear it and then try to make pathetic insults like saying they need therapy is puerile and small-minded.

[lydocia]

Soft Lockpick님이 먼저 게시:

Or maybe that's just you throwing out an insult wrapped in a straw man because you know I'm correct about the bad writing quality.

I think it's cute that you want to use Big Words™ like "straw man argument" and "soap box", but can't quite figure out how to yet. I believe in you, though, you'll figure it out someday.

Soft Lockpick님이 먼저 게시:

You tire yourself out yet or do you want to get on another soapbox?

Right back at ya, my dude.

But if this what it's come to, then you've already lost the argument and we're done.

I hope you have a nice day!

[BigFloof]

It's a mechanically amazing, deep, interesting game, that's unfortunately full of bugs.

[アンジェル]

TripSin님이 먼저 게시:

アンジェル님이 먼저 게시:

You sound more like you need a therapist, if you get offended like that by game mechanics or bugs. That behaviour you showing in your post is not what can be considered healthy.

That put aside, you also clearly are misunderstanding your buy. Not only can you refund your purchase when you have valid reasons to do so, no one could charge you 100$ whatever currency for the content which is already available. If you bought the big pack, then you clearly bought rights to play the game in the future including the season pass. That would be a different state of the game again.

I hope this gives you comfort, knowing you could pay less for what you can get right now.

The topic already offrailed far too much from a thank you thread to a thread where some people clearly just want to rant. This is surely not what the original poster intended. Valid complaints and feedback are okay. But that meaningless ranting is helping no one.

アンジェル you are so ridiculous. I get that you don't like that a lot of other people are voicing their frustrations about a game you like. I've been there. But to try to dismiss all of their complaints just because you don't want to hear it and then try to make pathetic insults like saying they need therapy is puerile and small-minded.

It is not that I am dismissing all complaints. I am complaining about the way they do. There are proper means to do so, which are not only more reasonable but also more effective.

Also, I am not insulting anyone. It is just how I perceive those posts. If they do not mean it like that, it is fine. But still, the impression I get is worrisome.

[Craiberk]

アンジェル님이 먼저 게시:

You sound more like you need a therapist, if you get offended like that by game mechanics or bugs. That behaviour you showing in your post is not what can be considered healthy.

Thank you for worrying for my mental health. As a returning grace, I would advise you look into hiring an assistant to teach you some reading comprehension you seem to be sorely lacking in.
I am not annoyed at bugs, I am annoyed at people who decided that releasing a game full of bugs was acceptable.

アンジェル님이 먼저 게시:

That put aside, you also clearly are misunderstanding your buy. Not only can you refund your purchase when you have valid reasons to do so, no one could charge you 100$ whatever currency for the content which is already available. If you bought the big pack, then you clearly bought rights to play the game in the future including the season pass. That would be a different state of the game again.

This is irrelevant to the fact that the portion of a purchase I made was not of the advertised quality. And yes, I am well aware of my options, thank you again for your worries.

アンジェル님이 먼저 게시:

I hope this gives you comfort, knowing you could pay less for what you can get right now.

It is not the problem of money, it is a problem of developer integrity. Hire that written comprehension trainer already.

アンジェル님이 먼저 게시:

The topic already offrailed far too much from a thank you thread to a thread where some people clearly just want to rant. This is surely not what the original poster intended. Valid complaints and feedback are okay. But that meaningless ranting is helping no one.

It is helping me to vent. It is helping people who are pissed at developer behavior by telling them they aren't the only ones feeling that way. It is helping customers, purchasing Owlcat's future titles by telling Owlcat what they did was not ok.
Your baseless positivity on the other hand is entirely worthless.

[アンジェル]

Craiberk님이 먼저 게시:

アンジェル님이 먼저 게시:

You sound more like you need a therapist, if you get offended like that by game mechanics or bugs. That behaviour you showing in your post is not what can be considered healthy.

Thank you for worrying for my mental health. As a returning grace, I would advise you look into hiring an assistant to teach you some reading comprehension you seem to be sorely lacking in.
I am not annoyed at bugs, I am annoyed at people who decided that releasing a game full of bugs was acceptable.

アンジェル님이 먼저 게시:

That put aside, you also clearly are misunderstanding your buy. Not only can you refund your purchase when you have valid reasons to do so, no one could charge you 100$ whatever currency for the content which is already available. If you bought the big pack, then you clearly bought rights to play the game in the future including the season pass. That would be a different state of the game again.

This is irrelevant to the fact that the portion of a purchase I made was not of the advertised quality. And yes, I am well aware of my options, thank you again for your worries.

アンジェル님이 먼저 게시:

I hope this gives you comfort, knowing you could pay less for what you can get right now.

It is not the problem of money, it is a problem of developer integrity. Hire that written comprehension trainer already.

アンジェル님이 먼저 게시:

The topic already offrailed far too much from a thank you thread to a thread where some people clearly just want to rant. This is surely not what the original poster intended. Valid complaints and feedback are okay. But that meaningless ranting is helping no one.

It is helping me to vent. It is helping people who are pissed at developer behavior by telling them they aren't the only one. It is helping customers, purchasing Owlcat's future titles by telling Owlcat this is not ok.
Your pointless positivity on the other hand is entirely worthless.

I cannot complain about that if you see it that way. At least you understood correctly how I meant it.

[urartu]

Let us not listen to the haters and put the thread back on track. Thank you Owlcat! Your game is great. Now push them all those massive patches.

[Soul]

Constructive criticism is a form of care and appreciation for something.

[Craiberk]

urartu님이 먼저 게시:

Let us not listen to the haters and put the thread back on track. Thank you Owlcat! Your game is great. Now push them all those massive patches.

Indeed! Let us ignore that the patches are needed in the first place and thank Owlcat for doing what they should have done before releasing, after release!
Now that I am thinking about this, maybe let's not?

[Soft Lockpick]

lydocia님이 먼저 게시:

Soft Lockpick님이 먼저 게시:

Or maybe that's just you throwing out an insult wrapped in a straw man because you know I'm correct about the bad writing quality.

I think it's cute that you want to use Big Words™ like "straw man argument" and "soap box", but can't quite figure out how to yet. I believe in you, though, you'll figure it out someday.

Soft Lockpick님이 먼저 게시:

You tire yourself out yet or do you want to get on another soapbox?

Right back at ya, my dude.

But if this what it's come to, then you've already lost the argument and we're done.

I hope you have a nice day!

Guess there was a third soap box.

Anyone want to bet on #4?