Throwing Axe Question

[[JV]SmartFart]

Hey

With Weapon finesse i can use my dex modificator for attack rolls on light weapons -> does this include throwing axes? (in the throwing axe description it is mentioned that it is a STR weapon but it is also a light weapon

please help me out guys

[jRocket]

I don't think you need weapon finesse. All ranged weapons add your dexterity modifier to your attack roll. The throwing axes strength property is for damage, not attack rolls.

[Yojimbo]

yeah better take some other feat and be careful of not taking manyshot or what its called since it can only be used with a bow,

also dual wielding throwing axes is pretty fun.

[Fluff]

Dual Wielding throwing axes Wenduag rocks

[[JV]SmartFart]

Originally posted by John:

I don't think you need weapon finesse. All ranged weapons add your dexterity modifier to your attack roll. The throwing axes strength property is for damage, not attack rolls.

so when i use the mythical weapon finesse to add dex modifier for damage it will work on these axes?

[The_Hero_Number_0]

Mythical Weapon Finesse adds Dex Modifier to the Damage calculation for axes, yes, as well as keeping the bonus to damage from Strength Modifier due to the Axes having the "Strength" bonus effect.

[kiloromeo]

Should it not be one or the other? Both?

[Miskatonic]

I third dual wielding throwing axes being really fun

[The_Hero_Number_0]

Originally posted by kiloromeo:

Should it not be one or the other? Both?

If the Throwing Axes didn't have the "Strength" bonus Effect on them, then yes, only one would apply. But due to having the "Strength" bonus effect, both apply.

[That Dodogama]

Wait, Mythic Finesse work on throwing axes? Does Slashing Grace?
Does it work on javelins and darts?

[Yojimbo]

Originally posted by That Dodogama:

Wait, Mythic Finesse work on throwing axes? Does Slashing Grace?
Does it work on javelins and darts?

might depend if they are light weapons. Dart probably not sure about the javelin though

[That Dodogama]

Originally posted by Yojimbo:

Originally posted by That Dodogama:

Wait, Mythic Finesse work on throwing axes? Does Slashing Grace?
Does it work on javelins and darts?

might depend if they are light weapons. Dart probably not sure about the javelin though

I tested it out, looks like Mythic Weapon Finesse let's you add your dex to thrown weapon damage, but it replaces, not stacks with, strength, like someone said earlier.

[CHAO$$$]

Originally posted by The_Hero_Number_0:

Mythical Weapon Finesse adds Dex Modifier to the Damage calculation for axes, yes, as well as keeping the bonus to damage from Strength Modifier due to the Axes having the "Strength" bonus effect.

wait wat?

That doesnt seem right...

edit: nevermind, already posts above that mention it doesnt work like that

[Yojimbo]

Originally posted by That Dodogama:

Originally posted by Yojimbo:

might depend if they are light weapons. Dart probably not sure about the javelin though

I tested it out, looks like Mythic Weapon Finesse let's you add your dex to thrown weapon damage, but it replaces, not stacks with, strength, like someone said earlier.

nice good to know ,thanks for clarifying that.

[The_Hero_Number_0]

Originally posted by That Dodogama:

Originally posted by Yojimbo:

might depend if they are light weapons. Dart probably not sure about the javelin though

I tested it out, looks like Mythic Weapon Finesse let's you add your dex to thrown weapon damage, but it replaces, not stacks with, strength, like someone said earlier.

Throwing Axes specifically have a "Strength" bonus effect (rather than simply doing the normal thing other weapons do, Throwing Axes specifically have a Strength effect on the list of effects (the list where "Adamantine", "Masterwork", "Finesse Wielding", etc. show up)) and I've seen it adding both Dex and Strength with my Double Throwing Axe Wenduag.

[That Dodogama]

Originally posted by The_Hero_Number_0:

Originally posted by That Dodogama:

I tested it out, looks like Mythic Weapon Finesse let's you add your dex to thrown weapon damage, but it replaces, not stacks with, strength, like someone said earlier.

Throwing Axes specifically have a "Strength" bonus effect (rather than simply doing the normal thing other weapons do, Throwing Axes specifically have a Strength effect on the list of effects (the list where "Adamantine", "Masterwork", "Finesse Wielding", etc. show up)) and I've seen it adding both Dex and Strength with my Double Throwing Axe Wenduag.

I checked the character sheet for damage and it was only getting a +6 from dex, and not an additional +3 from strength on top of it. Maybe it still calculates the strength bonus during an actual attack, but according to the character sheet dex replaces strength.

EDIT: I've tried it in actual combat, and even with mythic weapon finesse, it seems that actual damage calculations stil seeml based on strength and don't use dex at all.