Heart of Mystery containers puzzle

[JustSmile]

Is there a hint I am completely missing? The other four were pretty clear with the hint for each row's only allowed symbols and it was just a matter of figuring out a pattern, but the central puzzle with containers? I just do not know where to begin. Do the "empty" indents along the edges mean something?

I know I can find a ready solution picture online, that's not what I am looking for.

[Gotrek]

For me, the container piece puzzles are all dice pictures in the invintory and I have no idea what piece is what. Glitch? Or is it supposed to be that way?

[=DeadShot=]

Originally posted by Gotrek:

For me, the container piece puzzles are all dice pictures in the invintory and I have no idea what piece is what. Glitch? Or is it supposed to be that way?

Look at the name of the puzzle pieces . Guide over this. And not like the other the images.

[Entropie]

I found the logic after extensive googling, here are some hints (even with those it is still not trivial anyways):

Hint 1:
The puzzle connects at the 4 sides with the respective puzzles through the portals, this is hinted by the indentations at the side representing the domino tiles of the corresponding domino puzzle. You want to note which symbols are bordering the container puzzle, make sure to pay attention to orientation since it may flip due to camera perspective when going through a portal.

Hint 2:
The bordering symbols from the domino tiles are representing numbers, only the tiles that directly connect to the container puzzle grid count, the sum of the connecting symbols / numbers for each row and each collumn give you the number of blue tiles in the solution

Hint 3:
You need to consider that containers can only be placed in a specific fashion such that for each placement you already know that one tile (with the hand indicator) has to be blue, also you only have a selection of specific containers.

Hint 4:
Note that there are 24 blue tiles in the solution in total, this has to correspond to the sum of all row symbols as well as the sum of all collumn symbols

Hint 5:
The symbols correspond specifically to the numbers 1 to 5 with each number represented exactly once (that was an educated guess on my part, it is probably also possible to derive it logically, but I did not bother with that)

Hint 6:
Pointing the camera so that you are looking north
the number of blue tiles in the columns from left to right is:
2+1 =3, 2, 2 + 1 = 3, 2, 2 + 1 = 3, 5, 5 + 1 = 6

the number of blue tiles in the rows from top to bottom is:
3 + 1 = 4, 2, 3, 3, 4, 1 + 4 = 5, 2 + 1 = 3

After that you can use Sudoku-like reasoning to fill in the blue tiles but you should still not forget, that there are only certain canisters available + their position and orientation


Solving the puzzle on my own after knowing some of the ground rules (Hint 1, 2 and 3) was still far from trivial and good fun.

[Traveler]

Thank you! we Finally have the solution. Finally....

I will mention this comment when I explain this fully on other thread.

[DK]

Originally posted by Entropie:

I found the logic after extensive googling, here are some hints (even with those it is still not trivial anyways):

Hint 1:
The puzzle connects at the 4 sides with the respective puzzles through the portals, this is hinted by the indentations at the side representing the domino tiles of the corresponding domino puzzle. You want to note which symbols are bordering the container puzzle, make sure to pay attention to orientation since it may flip due to camera perspective when going through a portal.

Hint 2:
The bordering symbols from the domino tiles are representing numbers, only the tiles that directly connect to the container puzzle grid count, the sum of the connecting symbols / numbers for each row and each collumn give you the number of blue tiles in the solution

Hint 3:
You need to consider that containers can only be placed in a specific fashion such that for each placement you already know that one tile (with the hand indicator) has to be blue, also you only have a selection of specific containers.

Hint 4:
Note that there are 24 blue tiles in the solution in total, this has to correspond to the sum of all row symbols as well as the sum of all collumn symbols

Hint 5:
The symbols correspond specifically to the numbers 1 to 5 with each number represented exactly once (that was an educated guess on my part, it is probably also possible to derive it logically, but I did not bother with that)

Hint 6:
Pointing the camera so that you are looking north
the number of blue tiles in the columns from left to right is:
2+1 =3, 2, 2 + 1 = 3, 2, 2 + 1 = 3, 5, 5 + 1 = 6

the number of blue tiles in the rows from top to bottom is:
3 + 1 = 4, 2, 3, 3, 4, 1 + 4 = 5, 2 + 1 = 3

After that you can use Sudoku-like reasoning to fill in the blue tiles but you should still not forget, that there are only certain canisters available + their position and orientation


Solving the puzzle on my own after knowing some of the ground rules (Hint 1, 2 and 3) was still far from trivial and good fun.

I still can't find those "symbols' which represent numbers. The only tiles I see around the
core puzzle were some identical empty 2:1 rectangles--which length or height definitely not 4 or 5.

Would you bother to explain more about what exactly the symbol is?

[Entropie]

Sure, I will try to give a more in depth explanation of hint 1:

The symbols are coming from the domino puzzles that connect to the core puzzle through the portals. For that reason, you need to have all 4 domino puzzles in a solved state before tackling the core puzzle.

The empty rectangles that you spotted represent the domino tiles that would be adjacent to the core puzzle if you mentally glue the domino puzzles that are through the respective portals to the core puzzle.

The symbols on the domino tiles are the ones that represent numbers and only the symbols that directly tough the core puzzle (after the glueing process) are relevant to the solution.

Hope this helps.

[rumpelstiltskin]

i didn't understand your explanation tbh, but it sent me on the right path and i figured it out eventually (or i guess one could say i finally understood your explanation). i think it's another mechanically decent/ok puzzle that was ruined by unnecessarily obtuse and convoluted hints. while the steps more or less make sense in retrospect, when you add them in layers, the "search space" becomes their product, which makes it nigh insurmountable. imo they should have just teleported the necessary slab to the central room once you complete the corresponding puzzle.
also, since the interface is absolutely god awful, i decided to solve it with pieces of paper first, and i missed your "hint 3" because of that, which made the mechanics part harder than intended, and i even ended up with an isomorphic solution (two flipped 1s). i guess it's commendable that they tried to compensate for the interface's chunkiness (or maybe they just did it to ensure a single unique solution), but it looks forced and not justified by the overall puzzle design or visual hints (and is contrary to how the previous puzzles worked). so i'd say they botched even this attempt to make it less user-hostile.

[Cursed Life]

Way too difficult, doing puzzle like that just push 99% of the players to look at a guide.

[Janthis]

also, since the interface is absolutely god awful, i decided to solve it with pieces of paper first,

I just looked it up online to be honest. I might have enjoyed these puzzles if the interface wasn't so terrible for them and the symbols not so hard to distinguish. Definitely an interesting but half-baked idea imo.