Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Enhanced Edition

Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Enhanced Edition

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chrisslol1 Sep 27, 2021 @ 10:55am
Missing due too concealment with truesight?
It's not been happening since i got the spell and i love the spell for it but it just doesn't seem to work anymore during the last demon encounters and the biggest thing is the enemies don't even have buffs which conceal them. Aynone got a clue it's really starting to piss me off
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Yuri Sep 27, 2021 @ 11:12am 
Maybe if you are using Power attack, or piranha strikes that gives a big penalty to attacks, cause true sight should work, even if you are using blink, it doesn't make sense, maybe you were also debuffed too :ShockedOwlcat:
Immortal Reaver Sep 27, 2021 @ 11:16am 
You can also try echolocation, blinsense and thoughtsense.
chrisslol1 Sep 27, 2021 @ 11:57am 
Originally posted by Yuri:
Maybe if you are using Power attack, or piranha strikes that gives a big penalty to attacks, cause true sight should work, even if you are using blink, it doesn't make sense, maybe you were also debuffed too :ShockedOwlcat:
I mean than it would just miss but is states "Miss Concealment"
chrisslol1 Sep 27, 2021 @ 11:58am 
Originally posted by Immortal Reaver:
You can also try echolocation, blinsense and thoughtsense.
Why would i need those if i have have true sight thou never botherd because of it
underd0g Sep 27, 2021 @ 12:04pm 
Check that you aren't suffering from blindness.
Immortal Reaver Sep 27, 2021 @ 12:07pm 
Originally posted by chrisslol1:
Originally posted by Immortal Reaver:
You can also try echolocation, blinsense and thoughtsense.
Why would i need those if i have have true sight thou never botherd because of it
Because True Sight does not work on all concealement.
1) If you are blinded, True Sight does nothing, but Thoughtsense and Blindsense works.
2) True Sight does not work on non-magical concealement. Like Blink or planar shifted (a most creatures in Kingmaker were planar shifted and that is why it did not work on them).
3) True Sight doesn't work on creatures using normal stealth, Thoughsense and Echolocation does ( but stealth isn't used much by enemies).
Last edited by Immortal Reaver; Sep 27, 2021 @ 12:08pm
chrisslol1 Sep 27, 2021 @ 12:25pm 
Originally posted by underd0g:
Check that you aren't suffering from blindness.
I'm not
chrisslol1 Sep 27, 2021 @ 12:26pm 
Originally posted by Immortal Reaver:
Originally posted by chrisslol1:
Why would i need those if i have have true sight thou never botherd because of it
Because True Sight does not work on all concealement.
1) If you are blinded, True Sight does nothing, but Thoughtsense and Blindsense works.
2) True Sight does not work on non-magical concealement. Like Blink or planar shifted (a most creatures in Kingmaker were planar shifted and that is why it did not work on them).
3) True Sight doesn't work on creatures using normal stealth, Thoughsense and Echolocation does ( but stealth isn't used much by enemies).
https://prnt.sc/1tuvi2m so this tooltip is a straight up lie then escpecially in the matter of stealth?
cojuer Sep 27, 2021 @ 12:27pm 
Had this problem fighting Deskari in Iz. I used trikster skill for 3 rounds of 20 rolls and true sight but still missed due to concealment.

It was not blind and was not stealth.
If it is non-magic concealement, are there any counters?
Immortal Reaver Sep 27, 2021 @ 12:28pm 
Originally posted by chrisslol1:
https://prnt.sc/1tuvi2m so this tooltip is a straight up lie then escpecially in the matter of stealth?
No that seems right. What you think is problem?,
Oh and Blink is only partialy affected by True Sight. It should lower it from 50% to 20% concealment.
Last edited by Immortal Reaver; Sep 27, 2021 @ 12:32pm
chrisslol1 Sep 27, 2021 @ 12:34pm 
Originally posted by Immortal Reaver:
Originally posted by chrisslol1:
https://prnt.sc/1tuvi2m so this tooltip is a straight up lie then escpecially in the matter of stealth?
No that seems right. What you think is problem?,
Oh and Blink is only partialy affected by True Sight. It should lower it from 50% to 20% concealment.
The problem is that none of the beforementionend spells are beeing used by the enemy and i'm still missing due to concealment which straight up makes no ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sense and it's driving me nuts
Immortal Reaver Sep 27, 2021 @ 12:51pm 
I asked what part of tooltip is lie.
Do those enemies have Blur, Displacement, Invisibility or Greater Invisibility? If yes then True Sight should work. If they do not have them it should not work on their concealment.
T.W. Hamill Sep 27, 2021 @ 12:55pm 
There are plenty of non-magical concealment abilities. This is why Blindfighting and Improved Precise Shot exist.
Maay Sep 27, 2021 @ 1:01pm 
Use echolocation and blindfight feat, it helps.
Player#2201 Sep 27, 2021 @ 1:14pm 
I have just ended up stacking True Seeing with multiple other similar buffs (see invis, echolocation, blind fight + improved, etc). There is some failure happening in recognizing what concealment is because I still see the "miss" prompt for it on screen, even when not under the blind condition.
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Date Posted: Sep 27, 2021 @ 10:55am
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