Reeking Hear of Arcane rapier. Bug or not?

[kaymarciy]

The description of the Reeking Hear of Arcane rapier found in Wintersun states that whenever it is affected by any magical effect that gives it an enhancement bonus, this bonus is increased by +1. I tried to use Arcane and Spiritual weapon enhancement skills of Magus and Spirit Hunter and neither one adds additional +1 bonus or allows me to use up an additional point for a temporary enchantment. Greater Magic Weapon seems to be bugges as my lvl 13 Daeran can give out +5 bonus on any weapon and it doesn't seem to work with the Arcane Strike feat.
So, is this weapon bugged or I don't understand what is "magical effect that gives it an enhancement bonus"?

[kaymarciy]

Bump

[Thariorn]

No you are quite right.

It is simply bugged.

[Takichi]

Daeran and all other "Magical Enhancment" Effects usually state you cant exceed Enhancment lvl 5 on this Weapon. Whic Means the Sprititual Weapon for Example on a +1 Weapon only needs to add +3 to reach the Maximum of +5 Weapon Enhancment and therefore you got the points to stack them on other Effects. It didnt Raise the Points for Spiritual Weapon or anything else itself.

For Daerans Magic Weapon, it has the same rule, cant Exceed 5, so it just gives +1 until the Weapon would automaticly reach +5 and so on.

Edit Also to the Matter of Arcane Strike: Its not an Enhancment its a simple Dmage Buff.

[kaymarciy]

Originally posted by Thariorn:

No you are quite right.It is simply bugged.

That's quite a disapointment.

[Takichi]

Originally posted by kaymarciy:

Originally posted by Thariorn:

No you are quite right.It is simply bugged.

That's quite a disapointment.

Imagine ignoring the Explanation you got only to get your Thinking confirmed :D Well than live with Information Bias and be sad about something you simply dont understand right :D

[Thariorn]

Originally posted by Takichi:

Originally posted by kaymarciy:

That's quite a disapointment.

Imagine ignoring the Explanation you got only to get your Thinking confirmed :D Well than live with Information Bias and be sad about something you simply dont understand right :D

Well, you shouldn't judge when you yourself conveniently overlooked this part of the op's post

Originally posted by kaymarciy:

I tried to use Arcane and Spiritual weapon enhancement skills of Magus and Spirit Hunter and neither one adds additional +1 bonus or allows me to use up an additional point for a temporary enchantment.

.
This is not about failing to achieve +6 enchanment

[vajrasatava]

Originally posted by Takichi:

Originally posted by kaymarciy:

That's quite a disapointment.

Imagine ignoring the Explanation you got only to get your Thinking confirmed :D Well than live with Information Bias and be sad about something you simply dont understand right :D

As for the Reeking Heart of Arcane rapier, it is bugged alright. It is +3 Rapier. So if it worked as intended, it should've got +2 enhancement boost when you cast normal Magic Weapon spell on it, instead of +1. But in reality, it simply doesn't and just gets +1. I just checked it myself.

As for your insolent and rude comment, don't judge people with your short knowledge and experience. You didn't even check the fact when you mocked a person with your false information. If there's a person who don't understand anything here, that is you.

[hilburnashua]

Originally posted by vajrasatava:

Originally posted by Takichi:

Imagine ignoring the Explanation you got only to get your Thinking confirmed :D Well than live with Information Bias and be sad about something you simply dont understand right :D

As for the Reeking Heart of Arcane rapier, it is bugged alright. It is +3 Rapier. So if it worked as intended, it should've got +2 enhancement boost when you cast normal Magic Weapon spell on it, instead of +1. But in reality, it simply doesn't and just gets +1. I just checked it myself.

As for your insolent and rude comment, don't judge people with your short knowledge and experience. You didn't even check the fact when you mocked a person with your false information. If there's a person who don't understand anything here, that is you.

Hunh, weird. Magic Weapon should not do anything at all on that weapon, or any other weapon that already has a +1 bonus since it doesn't increase the bonus by 1 just give it a +1 bonus. Definitely different from the PnP version and is a much stronger spell.

[vajrasatava]

Originally posted by hilburnashua:

Originally posted by vajrasatava:

As for the Reeking Heart of Arcane rapier, it is bugged alright. It is +3 Rapier. So if it worked as intended, it should've got +2 enhancement boost when you cast normal Magic Weapon spell on it, instead of +1. But in reality, it simply doesn't and just gets +1. I just checked it myself.

As for your insolent and rude comment, don't judge people with your short knowledge and experience. You didn't even check the fact when you mocked a person with your false information. If there's a person who don't understand anything here, that is you.

Hunh, weird. Magic Weapon should not do anything at all on that weapon, or any other weapon that already has a +1 bonus since it doesn't increase the bonus by 1 just give it a +1 bonus. Definitely different from the PnP version and is a much stronger spell.

Yes, in Pathfinder: WOTR, spells which enhance weapons and armors, such as Magic Weapon(Greater), Magical Vestment are powerful because they can be casted on equipment which already has enhancement bonus. In case of weapons, the total enhancement limit is +5, where as armor enhancement can go beyond that.

[Goilveig]

Originally posted by hilburnashua:

Hunh, weird. Magic Weapon should not do anything at all on that weapon, or any other weapon that already has a +1 bonus since it doesn't increase the bonus by 1 just give it a +1 bonus. Definitely different from the PnP version and is a much stronger spell.

That's correct in tabletop rules, but in the game, magic weapon / magic vestment stack with the base enhancement bonus of the armor, rather than only the more powerful enhancement taking effect.

Essentially the base weapon enhancement is treated as untyped rather than enhancement bonus.