Alchemist Feat useage : "Fast Bombs" "Rapid Shot" ETC

[Beardy Biscuit]

So, following PF:KM ; Alchemist was a....severely buggy mess. My newest playthrough is involving one, and I've just gotten Fast Bombs. Unfortunately...its not working. My BAB is high enough, as a full round is 2 Arrows out of a longbow, and during the Turn Based Battle mode it even shows the bar lighting up as a full action for Bomb Useage, but only ever throws one, cancels out, and then allows movement as if it was NOT a full action round.

Info on whether or not this is -still- bugged from their last game would be appreciative, or if I'm doing it wrong in some way or another. Main Hand is a longbow, BAB Is 8 according to Toybox Mod which does 2 Attacks for an Alchemist, Fast Bombs is acquired, turned on, and has been tested several times during full round strikes. Thanks in advance.

[There is no Mango]

It's working for my alchemist.

Basic question, don't take it bad, you activated the ability right ?

[Beardy Biscuit]

LOL, Yes, and I figured out the issue. Snap Targeting needs to be turned on, either by holding down CTRL or through the settings in the menu; Otherwise it acts as a 'splash weapon' exclusively and is not subject to multi-attacks based on BAB.

[Fluff]

Yeah, or snap targeting, or right click the bomb for auto cast.
Had the same issue.

[Scrygnimir]

Ahh, interesting. Good to know that about snap targeting. (I've actually been having the opposite bug, where I'll move my alchemist, then take a standard action to throw a bomb... and get the full-attack sequence.)

[There is no Mango]

It's pretty annoying we can't use these abilities when targeting for splash targeting.

I don't quite get the logic.

[ThatGuyOn*****]

Going to piggyback this topic.

Apparently, in Pathfinder proper, once your alchemist has Fast Bombs, they can benefit from Rapid-Shot and Two-Weapon Fighting to absolutely spam bombs at a target.

Any of you folks know whether that's true in WOTR?

[Beardy Biscuit]

From what i understand, yes, it is, however, you still need to be aware of Splash weapons and how they work with certain feats. Free-targeting with Bombs does not proc feats like Fast Bombs, or Rapid Shot. They need to have snap targeting turned on, and attached to a singular target to be in effect for w/e reason.

[Frostfeather]

Originally posted by jalexs_*****:

Apparently, in Pathfinder proper, once your alchemist has Fast Bombs, they can benefit from Rapid-Shot and Two-Weapon Fighting to absolutely spam bombs at a target.

Any of you folks know whether that's true in WOTR?

Your Bombs can benefit from Fast Bombs and Rapid Shot, but not Two-Weapon Fighting.

Because Bombs aren't actually "weapon attacks" in the game and you don't equip them. Also, most abilities that proc on weapon attacks don't work for Bombs (and sometimes the game just says "attacks" when it means "weapon attacks", which is even more confusing).

[ThatGuyOn*****]

Thanks to both Beardy Biscuit and night4 for your responses. I'll reshuffle my build plans accordingly.

This is my third pass trying to find a play-style I'm happy with. Pathfinder is seemingly a lot less straightforward than D&D, but that might simply be trying to transition from one to the other.

[SerenityNow]

I just tested this on 1.2x - fast bombs don't stack with rapid shot. I tried multiple tests - normal, with and without haste, tried clicking them both off then turned on rapid shot then fast bombs, tried click them both off then turn on fast bombs then rapid shot. With and without the mythic rapid shot feat. I could never get the extra attack.

However, I definitely got the -2 penalty from rapid shot if I didn't have the mythic rapid shot feat. I do run mods, but nothing to my knowledge should conflict with any of this. If anyone else can confirm that this indeed does stack by actually testing it, please let me know.