Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Enhanced Edition

Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Enhanced Edition

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Augustus Sep 22, 2021 @ 10:00am
Hammer the Gap -- it sounds nice, but doing the math...
When you take a full-attack action, each consecutive hit against the same opponent deals extra damage equal to the number of previous consecutive hits you have made against that opponent this turn. This damage is multiplied on a critical hit.

That means that if I attack with Lann 4 times the 5 strike will do +1 +1 +1 +1 for a total of +4 dmg on the fifth strike? For someone who is hitting for 60ish dmg per attack 64 damage seems like I wasted a feat. Or Am I understanding this ability wrong? I think I would rather take a +# to saves or something before I would take +4 damage.

Not to mention that it sounds like I would have to actually HIT the target on the previous attacks. Which means even less damage.

verdict: HtG sounds nice, but in practice it is a wasted feat. OR AM I MISSING SOMETHING.
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ColonoscoPete Sep 22, 2021 @ 10:03am 
That's the way I always understood it, so I never bothered picking it. It just sounds so bad.
Beermachine Sep 22, 2021 @ 10:05am 
I believe your math is wrong.

It's +1, +2, +3, +4, for a total extra damage of +10 on 5 consecutive hits.

Haven't tested it myself, but I'm pretty sure that's how it's supposed to work
Indure Sep 22, 2021 @ 10:09am 
Wouldn't the math be +1 +2 +3 +4 ... etc?
Trip Sep 22, 2021 @ 10:10am 
If you can manage to hit with all 9 attacks in one round then it would do...

36 damage extra in total.

But come on, the only thing you are guaranteed in this game with 9 of your attack rolls is that at least one of them will be a natural ONE.

Miss 2 of your 9 attacks and bonus damage drops to 21.

Maybe a monk could make use of it with pummeling style for the little extra to overcome damage resistance quicker? Or perhaps a double axe thrower? Just a little theory crafting.
Last edited by Trip; Sep 22, 2021 @ 10:11am
dreamPM Sep 22, 2021 @ 10:10am 
it deals extra damage equal to the number of previous consecutive hits, if you attack with Lann 4 times, then you will do +0 +1 +2 +3, total 6 damage, assuming you hit all of them
Phyroks Sep 22, 2021 @ 10:10am 
At level 14 he already shoots 7 times. And he needs more hit so he does not have deadly aim always on and that drops lot of his dmg already.

And yes hes dmg incease for each hit, meaning the bonus inceases from +4 to +5 on next hit etc. 1st arrow did 2d6+10 and last one 2d6+16.
Last edited by Phyroks; Sep 22, 2021 @ 10:14am
Monk Sep 22, 2021 @ 10:12am 
Originally posted by Beermachine:
I believe your math is wrong.

It's +1, +2, +3, +4, for a total extra damage of +10 on 5 consecutive hits.

Haven't tested it myself, but I'm pretty sure that's how it's supposed to work

This is how I read it, I plan to take it on two weapon fighting builds, I suspect it could be pretty good on regil or a Monk where they can get 7 or 9 attacks eventually.
Indure Sep 22, 2021 @ 10:14am 
Originally posted by Monk:
Originally posted by Beermachine:
I believe your math is wrong.

It's +1, +2, +3, +4, for a total extra damage of +10 on 5 consecutive hits.

Haven't tested it myself, but I'm pretty sure that's how it's supposed to work

This is how I read it, I plan to take it on two weapon fighting builds, I suspect it could be pretty good on regil or a Monk where they can get 7 or 9 attacks eventually.

It was a recommended feat on Regil so maybe it gets double procs from the hookhammers. That guy rarely misses as well.
dreamPM Sep 22, 2021 @ 10:20am 
Originally posted by Trip:
If you can manage to hit with all 9 attacks in one round then it would do...

36 damage extra in total.

But come on, the only thing you are guaranteed in this game with 9 of your attack rolls is that at least one of them will be a natural ONE.

Miss 2 of your 9 attacks and bonus damage drops to 21.

Maybe a monk could make use of it with pummeling style for the little extra to overcome damage resistance quicker? Or perhaps a double axe thrower? Just a little theory crafting.

If you miss 2 of your 9 attacks, your bonus damage can drop to 5 damage in total, so the damage output ranges from 5-36 (9 attacks)
Last edited by dreamPM; Sep 22, 2021 @ 10:39am
Trip Sep 22, 2021 @ 10:26am 
Originally posted by dreamPM:
Originally posted by Trip:
If you can manage to hit with all 9 attacks in one round then it would do...

36 damage extra in total.

But come on, the only thing you are guaranteed in this game with 9 of your attack rolls is that at least one of them will be a natural ONE.

Miss 2 of your 9 attacks and bonus damage drops to 21.

Maybe a monk could make use of it with pummeling style for the little extra to overcome damage resistance quicker? Or perhaps a double axe thrower? Just a little theory crafting.

If you miss 2 of your 9 attacks, you bonus damage can drop to 5 damage in total, so the damage output ranges from 5-36 (9 attacks)

Oooof, yeah. I was going with best case scenario for the placement of the 2 of 9 misses. Worst case, yikes.

What if you miss 7 of 9?
Phyroks Sep 22, 2021 @ 10:31am 
Originally posted by Trip:
Originally posted by dreamPM:

If you miss 2 of your 9 attacks, you bonus damage can drop to 5 damage in total, so the damage output ranges from 5-36 (9 attacks)

Oooof, yeah. I was going with best case scenario for the placement of the 2 of 9 misses. Worst case, yikes.

What if you miss 7 of 9?
well best case is you hit 2 in a row and gain +1 dmg from the feat, the other options give +0.

Enlarge person is the best thing for lann! Potions of hurricane bow(can you get these?)
Last edited by Phyroks; Sep 22, 2021 @ 10:33am
Originally posted by Trip:
What if you miss 7 of 9?

Then you should watch Star Trek: Voyager so you stop missing her.
Alternatively, you could hang a poster on the wall next to your bed.
Aria Athena Sep 22, 2021 @ 10:38am 
It's not a wasted a feat, but it is more of a late game feat you take when you've run out of more important ones.

Even if you have 9 attacks and none of them miss, how many enemies can actually tank 9 of your hits?
Last edited by Aria Athena; Sep 22, 2021 @ 10:44am
Manimal Sep 22, 2021 @ 10:39am 
so whats the verdict my mathematics knowledge stops at the division
Phyroks Sep 22, 2021 @ 10:44am 
Originally posted by Manimal:
so whats the verdict my mathematics knowledge stops at the division
+2 dmg feat is almost always better. Dont take hammer the gap if you cant attack atleast 5 times. Or something along those lines.

Dont understand why compare it to some saves, if you want defensive stuff take defenses, if you want little more dmg then this is it. Its not game breaking feat.
Last edited by Phyroks; Sep 22, 2021 @ 10:47am
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