What's Finesse Wielding??

[joonkimdmd]

I thought it meant the weapon damage is based on Dex instead of Str.
https://imgur.com/a/LIBIQSu

I just used a weapon t hat says Finesse wielding but the damage shows that it's based on Strength +5.
Could you tell me if this is a bug or I misunderstood something?

[Withmir]

weapon finesse is for to hit there are other feats for replacing dmg with dex

[AzureTheGamerKobold]

It means it qualifies for weapon finesse

[SmallGespenst]

basically if a weapon has the finesse tag it means the finesse feat works with it, basically letting high dex let you hit easier. you can also get dex->damage but that requires the mythic finesse feat

[joonkimdmd]

What does weapon finess (Mythic) ability do that's different from non mythic?

[Frozen Dervish]

Originally posted by joonkimdmd:

What does weapon finess (Mythic) ability do that's different from non mythic?

gives the rogue finesse to damage feat to any class without needing to be 10+ fighter or 3+rogue(also think it applies to thrown weapons/composite bows as well)

[Cpt_Weisemann]

Weapon finesse let's you use your dex modifier instead of strength modifier for attack rolls. Rogues can select 3 weapons to also use dex modifier for damage rolls. Mythic finesse let's you use dex modifier for all the finesse weapons for damage rolls.

[joonkimdmd]

Originally posted by Cpt_Weisemann:

Weapon finesse let's you use your dex modifier instead of strength modifier for attack rolls. Rogues can select 3 weapons to also use dex modifier for damage rolls. Mythic finesse let's you use dex modifier for all the finesse weapons for damage rolls.

Mythic finess description you wrote sounds exactly like non mythic finess.
Regular finess wield aalso let you use dex modifier for all the finess weapons for damage rolls, right?

[Cpt_Weisemann]

Normal finesse only lets you use dex modifier on attack rolls, not for dmg rolls. I just checked wiki and it says for mythic finesse:
"You're an expert with weapons that rely on your agility. Benefit: When using Weapon Finesse, you may also use your Dexterity modifier instead of your Strength modifier on your damage rolls"
Normally only rogues and some new archetypes can use dex modifier for damage rolls.

[Takichi]

So there are several Things and Mix Ups here.

First: Weapon Finess(Weapon Ability) allows you to use Dex instead of Strenght for Attack Rolls(to hit). But only with this Specific Weapon, which has this Ability.

Weapon Finesse(Feat) Allows you to use Dex instead of Strength for Attack Rolls(to hit) with every Light Weapon.

Agile(Weapon Ability) Allows you to use your Dex instead of Strength for Damage.

Weapon Finesse Mythic(Mythic Feat): Allows you to use Dex instead of Strength for Damage.

The Mythic Feat is meant to be used for Builds and Charakter who use several Weapon Setups while Focusing on Dex. Normaly the Feats which allow you to Change Strength to Dex Damage, are limited to 1 Single Choosen Weapon Type and only for Light Weapons, so Dagger, Kukri, Shortswords and so on.

[joonkimdmd]

Originally posted by Cpt_Weisemann:

Normal finesse only lets you use dex modifier on attack rolls, not for dmg rolls. I just checked wiki and it says for mythic finesse:
"You're an expert with weapons that rely on your agility. Benefit: When using Weapon Finesse, you may also use your Dexterity modifier instead of your Strength modifier on your damage rolls"
Normally only rogues and some new archetypes can use dex modifier for damage rolls.

Ohhh one is for attack and the other is for dmg!!!

[joonkimdmd]

Originally posted by Takichi:

So there are several Things and Mix Ups here.

First: Weapon Finess(Weapon Ability) allows you to use Dex instead of Strenght for Attack Rolls(to hit). But only with this Specific Weapon, which has this Ability.

Weapon Finesse(Feat) Allows you to use Dex instead of Strength for Attack Rolls(to hit) with every Light Weapon.

Agile(Weapon Ability) Allows you to use your Dex instead of Strength for Damage.

Weapon Finesse Mythic(Mythic Feat): Allows you to use Dex instead of Strength for Damage.

The Mythic Feat is meant to be used for Builds and Charakter who use several Weapon Setups while Focusing on Dex. Normaly the Feats which allow you to Change Strength to Dex Damage, are limited to 1 Single Choosen Weapon Type and only for Light Weapons, so Dagger, Kukri, Shortswords and so on.

Wait, I think you are wrong.
I don't have mythic wweapon finess but my dexterity is used for both attack roll and damage roll.
Even the weapon ability weapon finess allowws you to use dex for damage roll, and not attack roll.

[joonkimdmd]

Wait, something is not right.

Finess training is already using dex for damage roll.
So mythic weapon finess is the same as finesse training?
Are they stackable?

[Herr Glaube]

Originally posted by joonkimdmd:

Wait, something is not right.

Finess training is already using dex for damage roll.
So mythic weapon finess is the same as finesse training?
Are they stackable?

That's because Finesse Training is something different from Weapon Finesse. Finesse Training is a class feature that includes the effects of both Weapon Finesse and Mythic Weapon Finesse for select weapons.

[DarkFenix]

Originally posted by Herr Glaube:

Originally posted by joonkimdmd:

Wait, something is not right.

Finess training is already using dex for damage roll.
So mythic weapon finess is the same as finesse training?
Are they stackable?

No, Finesse Training is for Attack rolls. Mythic is for Damage rolls. These are not the same thing.

No. Finesse training is a rogue class feature that gives them dex to damage with one chosen weapon type. Nothing to do with attack.

Originally posted by joonkimdmd:

Wait, something is not right.

Finess training is already using dex for damage roll.
So mythic weapon finess is the same as finesse training?
Are they stackable?

No, they don't stack. Basically if you're using something like finesse training, slashing grace, or fencing grace, you don't need mythic weapon finesse.

[Herr Glaube]

Originally posted by DarkFenix:

No. Finesse training is a rogue class feature that gives them dex to damage with one chosen weapon type.

Yeah, i know, but Steam borked up on me before i could fix that.