Succubus in Tirabade Residence

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How do I kill the Succubus inside Tirabade Residence before she turns somebody in my party against me. Because when she does this my Party Kills, like for real kills that member, Sometimes it is me which is obviously a game over.

[TofuFox]

The "Protection from <Alignment>" spells protect against domination.

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Originally posted by TofuFox:

The "Protection from <Alignment>" spells protect against domination.

Thanks for info.
Sadly I don't have any of those :(
Guess I'll just keep loading and hope I eventually pass the save check

[JustSmile]

Check your scrolls and potions. You get a lot of powerful consumables very quickly.

[Rosh+]

Originally posted by TofuFox:

The "Protection from <Alignment>" spells protect against domination.

No, they don't. The level 8 improvements upon these spells do. I think you might be confusing the effects of this spell with the effects of the spell of the same name in DnD 3.5e and thus NWN that does protect against mind affecting spells.

Best OP can do are the low level anti mind affecting spells like Unbreakable Heart, which I'm not sure would work against domination. Break Enchantment might work too, but that has more of a tendency to remove your buffs as opposed to actually helping most of the time.

[Naked Granny]

Originally posted by Rosh+:

Originally posted by TofuFox:

The "Protection from <Alignment>" spells protect against domination.

No, they don't. The level 8 improvements upon these spells do. I think you might be confusing the effects of this spell with the effects of the spell of the same name in DnD 3.5e and thus NWN that does protect against mind affecting spells.

You're wrong.

Protection From Alignment[www.d20pfsrd.com] does prevent mental domination effects from creatures of that alignment, and it's pretty much always been this way.

And I've personally tested it in-game, and it does work against the succubus dominate as it is supposed to.

[MMJ]

A simple potion of protection from evil (or chaos) did the job for me. Had everyone in the party to drink one before entering the house, and she couldn't dominate anyone.

She died quickly anyway, thanks to the most OP hex of all : Slumber, with a coup de grâce on the following turn.

[Insanity_184]

Originally posted by Rosh+:

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No, they don't. The level 8 improvements upon these spells do. I think you might be confusing the effects of this spell with the effects of the spell of the same name in DnD 3.5e and thus NWN that does protect against mind affecting spells.

Ya they do. Read them.

“While under the effects of this spell, the target is immune to any new attempts to possess or exercise mental control over the target.“

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/p/protection-from-evil/

Also you can easily find potions of proct from evil or buy scrolls at the defenders heart.

[Rosh+]

Originally posted by Aunt Tony:

Originally posted by Rosh+:

No, they don't. The level 8 improvements upon these spells do. I think you might be confusing the effects of this spell with the effects of the spell of the same name in DnD 3.5e and thus NWN that does protect against mind affecting spells.

You're wrong.

Protection From Alignment[www.d20pfsrd.com] does prevent mental domination effects from creatures of that alignment, and it's pretty much always been this way.

And I've personally tested it in-game, and it does work against the succubus dominate as it is supposed to.

I don't believe that. It didn't work in Kingmaker, and it doesn't appear to work here. It's always been stated to work in PnP but it hasn't got that effect here afaik. I'll use Toybox to spawn some Succubi on a new character and get back to you on that.

[JustSmile]

Originally posted by Aunt Tony:

You're wrong.

Protection From Alignment[www.d20pfsrd.com] does prevent mental domination effects from creatures of that alignment, and it's pretty much always been this way.

And I've personally tested it in-game, and it does work against the succubus dominate as it is supposed to.

That's interesting, because the in-game text does not show any indication of tabletop's secondary or tertiary functionality being present at all.

[TofuFox]

Originally posted by Rosh+:

No, they don't. The level 8 improvements upon these spells do. I think you might be confusing the effects of this spell with the effects of the spell of the same name in DnD 3.5e and thus NWN that does protect against mind affecting spells.

Yes, they do (as they do in tabletop PF). I've used them (particularly the "communal" version) in game. Apparently they didn't in Kingmaker (can't really remember) and the description wasn't updated, and I'm not sure if the "new save when the spell is cast" works, but the "immune to new effects while under the influence of the spell" does.

[T.W. Hamill]

Or, once the person is dominated, switch to Turn Based. Then you can just... not have your party attack them.

Or pause frequently in RTWP and keep them on target.

And then when the fight is over, hit "Stop" in the bottom left. And theyll just.. stop. And not kill them.

Exercise a little control.

[Cutlass Jack]

Remember you can have Ember use her slumber on the person the succubus turns. So they can enjoy a nice nap while you deal with her.

[Naked Granny]

Originally posted by JustSmile:

Originally posted by Aunt Tony:

You're wrong.

Protection From Alignment[www.d20pfsrd.com] does prevent mental domination effects from creatures of that alignment, and it's pretty much always been this way.

And I've personally tested it in-game, and it does work against the succubus dominate as it is supposed to.

That's interesting, because the in-game text does not show any indication of tabletop's secondary or tertiary functionality being present at all.

Did you right click the spell to read the full, verbose, real, actual description or were you just looking at the short quick summary of the tooltip?

[Naked Granny]

Originally posted by Rosh+:

Originally posted by Aunt Tony:

You're wrong.

Protection From Alignment[www.d20pfsrd.com] does prevent mental domination effects from creatures of that alignment, and it's pretty much always been this way.

And I've personally tested it in-game, and it does work against the succubus dominate as it is supposed to.

I don't believe that. It didn't work in Kingmaker, and it doesn't appear to work here. It's always been stated to work in PnP but it hasn't got that effect here afaik. I'll use Toybox to spawn some Succubi on a new character and get back to you on that.

It does work in Kingmaker.

You have to cast the correct version of the spell to oppose the alignment of the enemy caster.

It won't work if the enemy caster is true neutral because there isn't a "protection from neutral" version of the spell for obvious reasons.

[JustSmile]

Originally posted by Aunt Tony:

Did you right click the spell to read the full, verbose, real, actual description or were you just looking at the short quick summary of the tooltip?

Oh, now I remember your nick. You're that dude who was giving blatantly wrong advice about builds and companions as "fact" while being insulting and condescending toward everyone contradicting you. Hah. You were amusing then and are amusing now.

Have a screenshot of the tooltip even though you will still claim it reads something else despite being presented with straightforward, unquestionable facts: https://i.imgur.com/X7VN4se.png

And yes, I do have full tooltips on. Here, this is the option: https://i.imgur.com/50Z50IF.png

Now please explain to me how I am still wrong because you have the data.