Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Enhanced Edition

Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Enhanced Edition

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Kasa Sep 15, 2021 @ 1:24pm
Amused by the notion of a Gold Dragon mythic path
It's such an aw-inspiring thing, meanwhile here is my level 11 Thass wizard with a 24 hour dragon transformation.
Fun fact they try to make gold dragon special by not allowing that particular transformation even though Red dragons are allowed and are the evil equivalent (and combat wise in lore more powerful in a fight).
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B Unit Sep 15, 2021 @ 1:28pm 
The fact all your damage gets converted into Holy damage instead of Fire seems to indicate you don't become just a regular Gold Dragon - no idea if the game elaborates on that or it's Owlcat house rules for some extra flavor.
Shooting Blind Sep 15, 2021 @ 1:33pm 
Meanwhile here i am as a level 11 Bfur transmuter and my whole party is dragons of different colors, i call them my rainbow breath death dealers
Bottledbuttfart Sep 15, 2021 @ 1:37pm 
Also fun fact: Bloodrager has Gold Dragon as an option for their bloodline and probably shouldn't.
Kasa Sep 15, 2021 @ 1:37pm 
Originally posted by sweetchilliheat:
The fact all your damage gets converted into Holy damage instead of Fire seems to indicate you don't become just a regular Gold Dragon - no idea if the game elaborates on that or it's Owlcat house rules for some extra flavor.
Oh I imagine is some kind of homebrew fluff, I've seen it a lot with GM's who don't play a lot of high levels games. They don't realise that high level magical users tend to become almost literal gods in every sense of the word.

Originally posted by Shooting Blind:
Meanwhile here i am as a level 11 Bfur transmuter and my whole party is dragons of different colors, i call them my rainbow breath death dealers
Lmfao
You da king XD

Originally posted by Bottledbuttfart:
Also fun fact: Bloodrager has Gold Dragon as an option for their bloodline and probably shouldn't.
That's even better lmao, who lookie become a gold dragon the most special of all dragons!
*Barbarian variant morphs into a gold dragon*
Barb: Ya, in'it sometin special eh?
Last edited by Kasa; Sep 15, 2021 @ 1:39pm
Kasa Sep 15, 2021 @ 1:43pm 
Though is it just me or does the game start getting REALLY made when you start layering on those 24 hour buffs.

I'm currently testing but I had my frame rate drop to an absolute crawl.
Bottledbuttfart Sep 15, 2021 @ 1:43pm 
Yeah I'm very confused about why we have a mythic path centered around something that's just a level 1 bloodline choice. It seems strange to say the least.
IKerensky Sep 15, 2021 @ 1:55pm 
Yep, so sad the Mythic Gold Dragon is among the weakest Gold Dragon of all the Mythic Path...
Kasa Sep 15, 2021 @ 1:55pm 
I mean to be fair, you could consider a lich and the swarm that walks in the same boat.
They are just templates for particularly strong magic users.

This really only leaves outsiders and lets be frank, angels and demons are just planar summon fodder that are not particularly hard to summon and bind.

Same could be said for Azata and Aeons, leaving trickster as the only thing that might be "mythic" since it's the only one left that was considered a mythic path (based on the srd alone, if the others appear in other material then that's another story)

But I'm guessing since this is wrath of the righteous they wanted something that felt more holy.

Though the whole point as far as I am aware of "mythic" paths was that the parties were transcending the laws that bound mortals.
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Kaelmato Sep 15, 2021 @ 1:58pm 
The idea lore-wise behind it is that you're not just transforming temporary to a dragon as is with dragon transformation spells. You become an actual, real dragon.

But yeah gameplay wise it's kinda stupid as everyone and their mothers can already transform into dragons.
Not to mention that the gold dragon form is bugged atm.
Uziel Sep 15, 2021 @ 2:01pm 
Most of the paths seem to center around an alignment: Lawful Neutral for Aeon, Chaotic Good for Azata, Chaotic Evil for Demon, Lawful Evil for Devil, etc. I guess they couldn't think of anything better for whatever alignment Gold Dragon represents. Either that, or the fact that gold dragon is a basic bloodline for some classes is just a glitch. The game has so many glitches it's hard to tell what's intended and what isn't sometimes.
Kasa Sep 15, 2021 @ 2:03pm 
Gold dragons are Lawful Good, which is already covered by the angel... >.>
Gigabyte Sep 15, 2021 @ 2:04pm 
Originally posted by Kaelmato:
The idea lore-wise behind it is that you're not just transforming temporary to a dragon as is with dragon transformation spells. You become an actual, real dragon.

But yeah gameplay wise it's kinda stupid as everyone and their mothers can already transform into dragons.
Not to mention that the gold dragon form is bugged atm.
I was actually gonna point this out the spells you use to change into a dragon are just that spells that turn you into a dragon temporarily, Where as with the mythic you are literally becoming a gold dragon which is leaps and bounds cooler than being able to temporarily become a dragon.
B Unit Sep 15, 2021 @ 2:15pm 
Originally posted by Gigabyte:
Where as with the mythic you are literally becoming a gold dragon which is leaps and bounds cooler than being able to temporarily become a dragon.

For me personally the whole thing falls kind of flat as it still feels like you're a human/dwarf/ etc larping as a dragon. The same holds true for most of the outsider paths - sure you have the powers and appearance of the mythical being but you dont have the lived experiences of one. For me, the lich, trickster and legend are the ones that interest me the most as the progression into one seems more natural, for lack of a better word.
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Kasa Sep 15, 2021 @ 2:16pm 
Ya you become a permanent dragon but that doesn't mean much when the spell lasts 24 hours with greater enduring spell.

And in the same regards Dragons are still flesh and blood mortal creatures, hardy magical mortal creatures but mortal non the less.

It's kind of hard to be inspired when playing as a magic user you can transform into almost anything you can think of, create demi-planes of existence, become immortal and travel at the speed of thought....

There are 9 (10) mythic paths and it looks like they WANTED to make each 1 rep a different alignment but kind of screwed it up.

LG: Angel
NG: Gold Dragon (even though all metalic dragons are listed as LG or CG)
CG: Azata
LN: Aeon
True N: I guess Legend?
CN: Trickster
LE: Lich
CN: Swarm that walks (Though I'd argue when your pure motivation is to eat everything your True Neutral)
CE: Demon
LE: Devil

They are missing a Neutral Evil.....
T.W. Hamill Sep 15, 2021 @ 2:18pm 
Originally posted by Kasa:
(and combat wise in lore more powerful in a fight).

Uhh, no. Even as far back as 1st Ed D&D Gold Dragons were more powerful than Reds.

There is no Chromatic equivalent to Golds. Theyre just better.

Reds are stat-equivalent to Silver (or at least, were, i know theyve varried them some in Pathfinder) but even in Pathfinder, Golds are more powerful than any of the other non-special-weirdness Dragons.
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