Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Enhanced Edition

Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Enhanced Edition

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Rainnd Sep 15, 2021 @ 6:11am
Legend path sorcerer
Do I get benefit to my casting from dragon disciple and similar prestige classes? Or should I just go for 20 levels of oracle? With 22 starting charisma I think I wouldn't even need abundant casting. And with whispers revelation I would get charisma to AC.
Last edited by Rainnd; Sep 15, 2021 @ 6:11am
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gmclucabel Sep 15, 2021 @ 6:14am 
I have no idea, but I hope we can get to caster level higher than 20, I'm eyeing legend too, to get 24hour duration on (extended) haste at CL26!
Overlard Sep 15, 2021 @ 6:21am 
Mythic ranks add to your CL, however Legend's additional 20 levels do not, to my knowledge.
Rainnd Sep 15, 2021 @ 6:25am 
Originally posted by Overlard:
Mythic ranks add to your CL, however Legend's additional 20 levels do not, to my knowledge.
Thanks, so 20 levels of oracle it is
Soft Lockpick Sep 15, 2021 @ 6:25am 
I haven't tested this myself because everyone has been saying if you did, say, 20 sorc + 10 in a caster prestige class your CL is still 20.

Seems like if you want to play an arcane caster you really want to play a lich or Azata depending on the type of caster. And if divine Angel.
gmclucabel Sep 15, 2021 @ 6:26am 
but the extra level from PrC should, if we go like, sorcerer 20/dragon disciple 10/loremaster 10


Personally, i'm planning on a divine 15/arcane15/mystic theurge 10 split, to have round/CL spell last 24 hours if we extend them!, or 14/16/10 if we need the CL to be more than 25 for the "5 minutes-->24 hours" of greater enduring spells
Soft Lockpick Sep 15, 2021 @ 6:27am 
Originally posted by gmclucabel:
but the extra level from PrC should, if we go like, sorcerer 20/dragon disciple 10/loremaster 10


Personally, i'm planning on a divine 15/arcane15/mystic theurge 10 split, to have round/CL spell last 24 hours if we extend them!, or 14/16/10 if we need the CL to be more than 25 for the "5 minutes-->24 hours" of greater enduring spells

SHOULD, but everyone I've heard talk about it says it does not. What it should do is irrelevant.
Ghost Sep 15, 2021 @ 6:29am 
Originally posted by gmclucabel:
I have no idea, but I hope we can get to caster level higher than 20, I'm eyeing legend too, to get 24hour duration on (extended) haste at CL26!

I think the Azata path gets perma haste somewhere as an option
gmclucabel Sep 15, 2021 @ 6:30am 
well I guess I'll try and save/reload when I get there, 90hours in and I'm still at mythic 3, faffing about in act 3, it's goign to be a bummer if legend doesn't push CL above 20, but I guess I'll stick to trickster if that's the case.

bummer
Midnight Sep 15, 2021 @ 6:30am 
What is the point of starting a second spellcasting class well into the lategame though?

Your low level spells and buffs are hardly gonna be relevant at this point so you might as well pump up your martial stats with feats, sneak attacks and whatnot.
Mauman Sep 15, 2021 @ 6:30am 
I think legend is supposed to be an in-game gestalt option.

So it's really not supposed to used to get more caster levels for your primary casting class.
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Soft Lockpick Sep 15, 2021 @ 6:32am 
Originally posted by Midnight:
What is the point of starting a second spellcasting class well into the lategame though?

Your low level spells and buffs are hardly gonna be relevant at this point so you might as well pump up your martial stats with feats, sneak attacks and whatnot.

I'd generally say that's the way as well. Or just pick a non legend path.

No reason you can't throw 20 scaled fist on your sorc and just be the "I don't need items to do everything" guy for a simple all in one build. Better that than adding cleric or druid probably unless you went heavy conjuration and want ALL the summons.
Rainnd Sep 15, 2021 @ 6:36am 
Originally posted by Midnight:
What is the point of starting a second spellcasting class well into the lategame though?

Your low level spells and buffs are hardly gonna be relevant at this point so you might as well pump up your martial stats with feats, sneak attacks and whatnot.
Freeing one space in party from having a cleric. Use clerics buffs before battle, sorcerers spell in battle. I don't see a reason why a caster should ever enter melee combat.
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Rainnd Sep 15, 2021 @ 6:37am 
Originally posted by Soft Lockpick:
Originally posted by Midnight:
What is the point of starting a second spellcasting class well into the lategame though?

Your low level spells and buffs are hardly gonna be relevant at this point so you might as well pump up your martial stats with feats, sneak attacks and whatnot.

I'd generally say that's the way as well. Or just pick a non legend path.

No reason you can't throw 20 scaled fist on your sorc and just be the "I don't need items to do everything" guy for a simple all in one build. Better that than adding cleric or druid probably unless you went heavy conjuration and want ALL the summons.
I inted to use same character for both azata and legend paths.
Midnight Sep 15, 2021 @ 6:40am 
Originally posted by Rainnd:
Originally posted by Midnight:
What is the point of starting a second spellcasting class well into the lategame though?

Your low level spells and buffs are hardly gonna be relevant at this point so you might as well pump up your martial stats with feats, sneak attacks and whatnot.
Freeing one space in party from having a cleric. Use clerics buffs before battle, sorcerers spell in battle. I don't see a reason why a caster should ever enter melee combat.

Yeah but you're lvl 21 and you're casting lvl 1 Cleric spells. Those caster levels don't stack. You're gonna drop your lvl 20 Cleric to cast heal minor wounds?

By the time you're 20/20 the game is basically over if you can even get that far.
Rainnd Sep 15, 2021 @ 6:42am 
Originally posted by Midnight:
Originally posted by Rainnd:
Freeing one space in party from having a cleric. Use clerics buffs before battle, sorcerers spell in battle. I don't see a reason why a caster should ever enter melee combat.

Yeah but you're lvl 21 and you're casting lvl 1 Cleric spells. Those caster levels don't stack. You're gonna drop your lvl 20 Cleric to cast heal minor wounds?

By the time you're 20/20 the game is basically over if you can even get that far.
I've read that you get your level duplicated, ex if you were level 18, you advance to 36. If it's the case like you said, then yeah second caster class would be useless.
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