Japanese language

[RainbowBrite13]

Can there Romaji be turned on and off? Is there a Furigana option? Can that be turned on and off as well? (I see this game is on sale right now, but am only interest in getting it if the romaji can be turned off. If not then it's not worth the money.)

[Kangit]

It doesn't look like it, no. Sorry.

[cresty]

For now its not possible to turn off the Romanji. but we are considering adding it due to player feedback.

[RainbowBrite13]

Originally posted by cresty:

For now its not possible to turn off the Romanji. but we are considering adding it due to player feedback.

I highly recommend adding a romaji and a furigana on/off option.

[rica]

Originally posted by cresty:

For now its not possible to turn off the Romanji. but we are considering adding it due to player feedback.

I'm looking forward to that

[BinarySplit]

Originally posted by cresty:

For now its not possible to turn off the Romanji. but we are considering adding it due to player feedback.

I want to highlight just how important it is. When the romanized pronunciation is present, it's the first thing your eyes try to read. You're effectively getting the answer before the question, which prevents your brain from actually remembering the association between the two. With both Chinese and Japanese (the languages I'm interested in), learning the pronunciation of each character is a massive part of the learning journey, and bypassing it by always showing the pronunciation makes it a lot less useful as a learning tool...

One further bit of feedback - learners will often hit characters they recognize but can't fully remember. When this happens, it's helpful to stimulate the memory without completely spoiling the solution. It would be great if when the pronunciation was hidden, there was a way to progressively reveal it (e.g. with Japanese reveal the furigana/romaji one syllable at a time, then only show the translation after all pronunciation is revealed).

[nechtan43]

Oh, I was wondering about this same thing for Korean. In some cases the romanisation is larger or visually bolder than the Hangul. Being able to toggle it on or off would be huge, but even being able to swap having the romanisation or native script be the focused text would be helpful. I'm really enjoying the game and think this would be a good tweak for it.

[Elgast]

I second that request. It would be nice to be able to display hiragana instead of romaji as an option.

[narnia649]

Yeah, I third that request as well. I am having a hard time not reading the romaji. It would be great if furigana was used above the kanji instead. This would reinforce the hiragana & the kanji.

[Reignhardt]

+1 I also agree with this.

[nesðarus]

I'd buy this when Furigana is added. No furigana for the kanji is a dealbreaker for me : ).

I'll keep an eye on this to buy it when/if furigana is ever added ^_^.

[Kurosenjo]

Honestly, if you're using it to learn Japanese, I wouldn't recommend it. I played a bit in order to see how well they handled it (I'm a native speaker and friends of mine usually ask me for advice on what to get to learn) and there are better resources. I couldn't even make it past a half hour playing.

1- Not all of the words provided are the actual day to day used words, at least not in my personal experience.
2- The one conversation challenge I tried required you to answer in a very academic way that very much marks one as having learned from a textbook, rather than accepting a shorter more natural sounding way to answer.
(Think about it, if someone asked "what are you studying" You probably wouldn't answer that with a full "I am studying X". It would be more natural just to answer with X by itself.)
Even Duolingo accepts alternatives to the "academic" answer if you know a more natural sounding way to answer.

In addition, the lack of an option to remove romaji (really is a crutch and makes it difficult to learn to read kanji, especially as the Romaji is larger and catches your eyes first), as well as a lot of the words being the engrish words. (Doa instead of tobira, contanaa instead of youki, Teapot instead of kyuusu, and those were just ones I saw quickly.)

Ultimately, it will get the job done if you want to get your point across, but it's by no means a way to learn natural sounding Japanese.Maybe it improves down the line, but as I was playing the demo anyway, and didn't know how far in I could go? I just opted out of buying it to see if it improves.

[HauntedFolly]

Originally posted by Kurosenjo:

Honestly, if you're using it to learn Japanese, I wouldn't recommend it. I played a bit in order to see how well they handled it (I'm a native speaker and friends of mine usually ask me for advice on what to get to learn) and there are better resources. I couldn't even make it past a half hour playing.

1- Not all of the words provided are the actual day to day used words, at least not in my personal experience.
2- The one conversation challenge I tried required you to answer in a very academic way that very much marks one as having learned from a textbook, rather than accepting a shorter more natural sounding way to answer.
(Think about it, if someone asked "what are you studying" You probably wouldn't answer that with a full "I am studying X". It would be more natural just to answer with X by itself.)
Even Duolingo accepts alternatives to the "academic" answer if you know a more natural sounding way to answer.

In addition, the lack of an option to remove romaji (really is a crutch and makes it difficult to learn to read kanji, especially as the Romaji is larger and catches your eyes first), as well as a lot of the words being the engrish words. (Doa instead of tobira, contanaa instead of youki, Teapot instead of kyuusu, and those were just ones I saw quickly.)

Ultimately, it will get the job done if you want to get your point across, but it's by no means a way to learn natural sounding Japanese.Maybe it improves down the line, but as I was playing the demo anyway, and didn't know how far in I could go? I just opted out of buying it to see if it improves.

I just got this out of a Humble Bundle, and I actually kind of enjoy the style of learning they were going for. Like immersion / exposure learning, even if the vocab is too westernized and stiff / academic.
Do you know of any other games similar to this style of learning? Like going around and learning the words for things, then having conversations with characters where you have to construct your responses?

[JCurry76]

+1 for this feature. It's absolutely essential for learning the CJK languages.

[Issabel]

Hey! Our development team is aware of an issue with Romanji, and it will be adressed in the upcomming update.
Thank you your feedback about Furigana as well. We will pass your suggestions to our develpment team!

Please join our Discord server for most recent info about the game and any help you need: https://discord.gg/3rh6aPRx

[RainbowBrite13]

Originally posted by HauntedFolly:

Originally posted by Kurosenjo:

Honestly, if you're using it to learn Japanese, I wouldn't recommend it. I played a bit in order to see how well they handled it (I'm a native speaker and friends of mine usually ask me for advice on what to get to learn) and there are better resources. I couldn't even make it past a half hour playing.

1- Not all of the words provided are the actual day to day used words, at least not in my personal experience.
2- The one conversation challenge I tried required you to answer in a very academic way that very much marks one as having learned from a textbook, rather than accepting a shorter more natural sounding way to answer.
(Think about it, if someone asked "what are you studying" You probably wouldn't answer that with a full "I am studying X". It would be more natural just to answer with X by itself.)
Even Duolingo accepts alternatives to the "academic" answer if you know a more natural sounding way to answer.

In addition, the lack of an option to remove romaji (really is a crutch and makes it difficult to learn to read kanji, especially as the Romaji is larger and catches your eyes first), as well as a lot of the words being the engrish words. (Doa instead of tobira, contanaa instead of youki, Teapot instead of kyuusu, and those were just ones I saw quickly.)

Ultimately, it will get the job done if you want to get your point across, but it's by no means a way to learn natural sounding Japanese.Maybe it improves down the line, but as I was playing the demo anyway, and didn't know how far in I could go? I just opted out of buying it to see if it improves.

I just got this out of a Humble Bundle, and I actually kind of enjoy the style of learning they were going for. Like immersion / exposure learning, even if the vocab is too westernized and stiff / academic.
Do you know of any other games similar to this style of learning? Like going around and learning the words for things, then having conversations with characters where you have to construct your responses?

It's not out yet, but maybe Shujinkou is what you are thinking of. It's a game I've been waiting for and it will be on other platforms like the Switch and I very much want to get Shujinkou on the Switch.