What people who like the ending fail to understand...

[Setzer]

I don't know why some people like this ending or tolerate it. It is a complete disaster and I will explain why.

The main problem with the ending is that it violates everything a story should have: resolution of the main plot.

Let me ask you, which is the main plot in this game?

Yes, the main plot is SAVING HUGO. Not once they talked about SAVING THE WORLD FROM HUGO(or the Macula). NOT ONCE.

So the main plot goes unresolved. If you wanted to give it a sad ending, just have Amicia sacrifice herself to save Hugo, that would be a completely different thing. But this ending resolves NOTHING.

This would be as if in TLOTR Frodo would get to Mordor, but then put the ring and get found by Sauron and he takes over the world. It makes no sense. Why go through all that trouble for nothing? Why would that be a story that needed to be told? Would that even BE a story? Wouldn't it just be just an anecdote or something?

Makes me want to have physical copies of the games to throw them in the trash, because that's what happens with all our efforts to save Hugo, they go in the trash.

I am really confused as to why they gave it this ending, because during the course of the game it shows very good story telling skills.

I didn't even cry with the ending, I was so confused as to what was happening.

♥♥♥♥ this, I really liked this title. Now I don't even know if I would play a 3rd game or anything by this studio.

[Dehra]

agree, plot sucks.

[ToxicXelta]

The ending also implies if there is a 3rd game, it's probably going to take place in the modern day, since you can see a baby with the macula blood and hear modern day hospital noises, which will be very odd for a trilogy to do.

[Mr. Nobody]

Kind of agree with OP to be honest. All I got out of the ending was The Order were right. Hugo should have been imprisoned and killed the moment the Macula was detected.

Amicia, Lucas, Beatrice, and everyone else involved in protecting Hugo are directly responsible for the genocide of thousands (if not millions) of innocents over the course of the two games. It's absolutely horrific in hindsight how selfish Amicia in particular was being.

And for a game supposedly about "acceptance", there is surprisingly little of it. Amicia is so stubborn she's willing to let thousands and thousands of innocent people die to the Macula just on the off chance she can save Hugo. She never accepts anything.

In the end it's either let the entire world end or kill Hugo. That's not "acceptance", it's just cutting your losses at point.

[sagefankia]

I don't mind the resolution, but I think it was done poorly. Specifically, after Huge lost to the Macula, he still had enough control to allow Amecia to stroll right in and kill him? You'd think the Macula would try and prevent that at all costs now that Hugo lost himself.

The other ridiculous thing is that Hugo has telepathy with people now? Honestly, you could try explaining Hugo's voice in the dream portion of the ending by calling it a personification of Amecia's mental anguish. But after she gives in... It can't be anything but telepathy. She talks to Hugo and he literally tells Amecia to kill him because he doesn't want to hurt her. Then he moves the rats to give her a shot. It's nonsensical.

[sagefankia]

Originally posted by ToxicXelta:

The ending also implies if there is a 3rd game, it's probably going to take place in the modern day, since you can see a baby with the macula blood and hear modern day hospital noises, which will be very odd for a trilogy to do.

Or it'll be like Assassin's Creed and never ends throughout time, and the modern game is just a different setting.

The game doesn't actually tell you when the Macula started. It only tells you how the Order came to be. So the Macula may have existed long beforehand, and it could have been tamed too. A cure was never established and this game only established a means of control.

A modern-set game would have a ton of crazy science. I assume that part of the plot would be about some group controlling the Macula with science as well, just like these 2 titles had.

I think that a modern-set game could have been interesting, but given how this second game ended, I think that it would be too "cheesy".

[ЯeÐ ĄnimaŁ ШaЯ]

Did not real it, can with 100% certainty said that I understand everything about the ending and you obsessed turds who can't get over the fact that not everything goes the way you like it. Starting ridicoulous threads like this.

I won't even read your ♥♥♥♥.

[Black Snake]

Originally posted by ЯeÐ ĄnimaŁ ШaЯ:

Did not real it, can with 100% certainty said that I understand everything about the ending and you obsessed turds who can't get over the fact that not everything goes the way you like it. Starting ridicoulous threads like this.

I won't even read your ♥♥♥♥.

If you aren't going to read it, why comment? are you upset that somebody doesn't like what you like? Or the simple possibility that the story might be garbage?

[Rack]

Wanna know something ? Amicia´s goal was saving Hugo. Stopping Macula is goal number 2. She would rather sacrifice entire world for Hugo instead of killing him and saving millions.

The moment Provance is destroyed i knew that the game will end with Amicia being forced to kill Hugo for greater good and she will be destroyed becouse of that. Amicia is heavily responsible for pretty much all deaths in the game.

Her liking of killing people affected Hugo to a degree that he did what he did at the end. Iam pretty sure if devs had more time there would be alternative ending where if you dont kill anyone in the game Hugo wont unleash Macula and gets a happy ending.

For me the way game ended was absolutely perfect. My criticisms are plot armor for Amicia in entire game (especially at the end when she gets slashed 3 times by Count and surviving that) and how stupid enemies are in general.

[Chawkletmelk]

Amicia saves Hugo from the Macula, and what Hugo does not want to become. The plot is resolved.

[Wurst Kaese Szenario]

What you all forget is the fact, that the whole story is completely nonsense - a boy who suffers from an eye disease (Macula) and so he's able to produce millions of rats whenever he wants. Even the story of Peter Parker aka Spider-Man is more realistic.

[Man of God]

IMO the whole game is bad EXCEPT the ending. It's just full of Hugo being whiny and annoying and Amicia being even weaker, more accident prone and more stupid and reckless than the firs game.

Both of them deserved to die. Likely there's a sequel coming too, to tie it off as a trilogy which is going to be set in present day or somewhere near. I'm more interested in how Asobo can handle all the negative feedback from this game and turn it into a good third game.

[Bankai9212]

Originally posted by 󠀡󠀡:

IMO the whole game is bad EXCEPT the ending. It's just full of Hugo being whiny and annoying and Amicia being even weaker, more accident prone and more stupid and reckless than the firs game.

Both of them deserved to die. Likely there's a sequel coming too, to tie it off as a trilogy which is going to be set in present day or somewhere near. I'm more interested in how Asobo can handle all the negative feedback from this game and turn it into a good third game.

Hugo is already dead, and considering it takes centuries for a new one to appear Amicia will be long dead also.

[apdomine]

I think most figured out that Hugo would have to die fairly early on. Unless, destroying every town one stayed in along with thousands of lives each time was a recipe for a good life. Amicia, understandably did not want to accept this, even though Hugo had come to this understanding even before arriving on the island. (When he was on the boat, he told her, he was OK with dying). What I did not like was the epilogue - Amicia running around Europe to find the next carrier (who probly wouldnt be born for several centuries or more judging by the last one before Hugo) was a terrible writing choice. She could have settled down, healed, and enjoyed a normal life (Hugo wanted her to stop fighting, he didnt like seeing her always have to be tough and fight). Or traveled with Sophia, maybe acknowledged her shared love with Lucas, or met another. Would have been touching to see her name her first son Hugo. She could have committed all her knowledge and experiences to writing a book that was delivered to various libraries to have available for future carriers. In my mind, that is what happened anyways. Ciao.,

[Enchanted]

If this truly is the last we see of these characters then multiple endings would have been preferable if not that then the last chapter should have been longer. It sucks the only ending we get is Amicia/Lucas kills Hugo. If you're gonna give us a gut wrenching ending like that fine, but I would have liked to see more than a "1 year later" time skip with a more satisfying conclusion for the surviving characters.

[Enchanted]

Originally posted by apdomine:

I think most figured out that Hugo would have to die fairly early on. Unless, destroying every town one stayed in along with thousands of lives each time was a recipe for a good life. Amicia, understandably did not want to accept this, even though Hugo had come to this understanding even before arriving on the island. (When he was on the boat, he told her, he was OK with dying). What I did not like was the epilogue - Amicia running around Europe to find the next carrier (who probly wouldnt be born for several centuries or more judging by the last one before Hugo) was a terrible writing choice. She could have settled down, healed, and enjoyed a normal life (Hugo wanted her to stop fighting, he didnt like seeing her always have to be tough and fight). Or traveled with Sophia, maybe acknowledged her shared love with Lucas, or met another. Would have been touching to see her name her first son Hugo. She could have committed all her knowledge and experiences to writing a book that was delivered to various libraries to have available for future carriers. In my mind, that is what happened anyways. Ciao.,

I agree! Those things would have made the epilogue so much better. My main gripe about the game is not the ending, but what happens after we do the deed. I would have also liked to see Amicia and Lucas grieve over Hugo's death or them reuniting with Sophie but hitting us with the credit roll right after killing him was tasteless imo. And Amicia fought so hard to not end up alone. I don't believe she would willingly be apart from "the nicest, most steady thing" in her life as she claimed. It would have been a more fulfilling end to her story if she settled and truly found peace with her remaining loved ones (Sophie & Lucas).