What people who like the ending fail to understand...

[Setzer]

I don't know why some people like this ending or tolerate it. It is a complete disaster and I will explain why.

The main problem with the ending is that it violates everything a story should have: resolution of the main plot.

Let me ask you, which is the main plot in this game?

Yes, the main plot is SAVING HUGO. Not once they talked about SAVING THE WORLD FROM HUGO(or the Macula). NOT ONCE.

So the main plot goes unresolved. If you wanted to give it a sad ending, just have Amicia sacrifice herself to save Hugo, that would be a completely different thing. But this ending resolves NOTHING.

This would be as if in TLOTR Frodo would get to Mordor, but then put the ring and get found by Sauron and he takes over the world. It makes no sense. Why go through all that trouble for nothing? Why would that be a story that needed to be told? Would that even BE a story? Wouldn't it just be just an anecdote or something?

Makes me want to have physical copies of the games to throw them in the trash, because that's what happens with all our efforts to save Hugo, they go in the trash.

I am really confused as to why they gave it this ending, because during the course of the game it shows very good story telling skills.

I didn't even cry with the ending, I was so confused as to what was happening.

♥♥♥♥ this, I really liked this title. Now I don't even know if I would play a 3rd game or anything by this studio.

[Sovereign]

I'm not sure I get your point here, Hugo dies and the Macula is stopped, that sounds pretty resolved to me.

[Setzer]

Originally posted by Sovereign:

I'm not sure I get your point here, Hugo dies and the Macula is stopped, that sounds pretty resolved to me.

And they save Hugo by killing him? Great.

The point is they spent the whole game saying "We need to save Hugo", and they failed miserably at the end. That's not a story. You need to resolve the main plot of the story which is "save Hugo".

[Sovereign]

Originally posted by Setzer:

Originally posted by Sovereign:

I'm not sure I get your point here, Hugo dies and the Macula is stopped, that sounds pretty resolved to me.

And they save Hugo by killing him? Great.

The point is they spent the whole game saying "We need to save Hugo", and they failed miserably at the end. That's not a story. You need to resolve the main plot of the story which is "save Hugo".

It was resolved, he died, that's the resolution. It's a sad ending, you don't have to like it but just because it's a sad doesn't make it a badly done.

[DeadBabyJuggler]

Originally posted by Setzer:

Originally posted by Sovereign:

I'm not sure I get your point here, Hugo dies and the Macula is stopped, that sounds pretty resolved to me.

And they save Hugo by killing him? Great.

The point is they spent the whole game saying "We need to save Hugo", and they failed miserably at the end. That's not a story. You need to resolve the main plot of the story which is "save Hugo".

The resolution is that Amicia failed and Hugo succumbed to the Macula. If you want only happy endings stick with disney and rom com movies. Don't watch Bambi though. Might stir up PTSD from this game.

[Bankai9212]

Or you can ignore this ending, and make your own fanfic based on the first games ending.

[Setzer]

Originally posted by Sovereign:

Originally posted by Setzer:

And they save Hugo by killing him? Great.

The point is they spent the whole game saying "We need to save Hugo", and they failed miserably at the end. That's not a story. You need to resolve the main plot of the story which is "save Hugo".

It was resolved, he died, that's the resolution. It's a sad ending, you don't have to like it but just because it's a sad doesn't make it a badly done.

And what's the point of the story then? To me it is pointless, because they failed everything they ever tried to do, they didn't learn anything, and it doesn't leave you with any message or anything. The whole thing is just pointless. If anything the moral of the story is "give up on your dreams, you're going to fail anyway".

That's what happens when you don't solve the main plot of the story, you get something that is completely pointless.

If they would've been able to cure Hugo, and then a soldier kills him or he dies for another reason, that would be fine because at least they found a cure. So the main plot is resolved. But in reality they did not find a cure, they didn't learn anything, they didn't save Hugo or anybody. Just caused mass destruction and died without doing anything of importance. Sorry but that is not a good story.

[Black Snake]

Originally posted by Setzer:

Originally posted by Sovereign:

It was resolved, he died, that's the resolution. It's a sad ending, you don't have to like it but just because it's a sad doesn't make it a badly done.

And what's the point of the story then? To me it is pointless, because they failed everything they ever tried to do, they didn't learn anything, and it doesn't leave you with any message or anything. The whole thing is just pointless. If anything the moral of the story is "give up on your dreams, you're going to fail anyway".

That's what happens when you don't solve the main plot of the story, you get something that is completely pointless.

If they would've been able to cure Hugo, and then a soldier kills him or he dies for another reason, that would be fine because at least they found a cure. So the main plot is resolved. But in reality they did not find a cure, they didn't learn anything, they didn't save Hugo or anybody. Just caused mass destruction and died without doing anything of importance. Sorry but that is not a good story.

+1. It's even worse when the audience playing the game learned the best thing to do is kill Hugo to end the spread but are stuck with 5-10 more hours of messing around in game while Amicia learns the same thing.

[Sovereign]

Originally posted by Setzer:

Originally posted by Sovereign:

It was resolved, he died, that's the resolution. It's a sad ending, you don't have to like it but just because it's a sad doesn't make it a badly done.

And what's the point of the story then? To me it is pointless, because they failed everything they ever tried to do, they didn't learn anything, and it doesn't leave you with any message or anything. The whole thing is just pointless. If anything the moral of the story is "give up on your dreams, you're going to fail anyway".

That's what happens when you don't solve the main plot of the story, you get something that is completely pointless.

If they would've been able to cure Hugo, and then a soldier kills him or he dies for another reason, that would be fine because at least they found a cure. So the main plot is resolved. But in reality they did not find a cure, they didn't learn anything, they didn't save Hugo or anybody. Just caused mass destruction and died without doing anything of importance. Sorry but that is not a good story.

I don’t think you understand stand what “resolved” means, you just seem to unhappy that the game had a sad ending and are trying to bend over backwards to pretend that is some kind of writing problem. Sometimes things don’t work out for the protagonists, deal with it.

As for what they learned and who they saved? They learned how to keep the Macula dormant, they failed to achieve this but can pass that knowledge on to the next Carrier saving future generations. They also save their own time from the Macula, even it was at great cost, “needs of the many” and all that.

If you really need some kind of simple moral or message like it’s some kind of Saturday morning cartoon I can give this: Sometimes you have to accept you can’t save everybody, even those closest to you. Sometimes you have to make personal sacrifices for the greater good, no matter how hard.

[kristijan.123]

Originally posted by Setzer:

I don't know why some people like this ending or tolerate it. It is a complete disaster and I will explain why.

The main problem with the ending is that it violates everything a story should have: resolution of the main plot.

Let me ask you, which is the main plot in this game?

Yes, the main plot is SAVING HUGO. Not once they talked about SAVING THE WORLD FROM HUGO(or the Macula). NOT ONCE.

So the main plot goes unresolved. If you wanted to give it a sad ending, just have Amicia sacrifice herself to save Hugo, that would be a completely different thing. But this ending resolves NOTHING.

This would be as if in TLOTR Frodo would get to Mordor, but then put the ring and get found by Sauron and he takes over the world. It makes no sense. Why go through all that trouble for nothing? Why would that be a story that needed to be told? Would that even BE a story? Wouldn't it just be just an anecdote or something?

Makes me want to have physical copies of the games to throw them in the trash, because that's what happens with all our efforts to save Hugo, they go in the trash.

I am really confused as to why they gave it this ending, because during the course of the game it shows very good story telling skills.

I didn't even cry with the ending, I was so confused as to what was happening.

♥♥♥♥ this, I really liked this title. Now I don't even know if I would play a 3rd game or anything by this studio.

I think you fail to understand the bigger picture and the plot in general.

The plot was not to just "Save Hugo" the plot was to stop the Macula progress.
Saving Hugo is just Amicia's personal goal, she wants to do anything to achieve that, but ultimately fails.
But the Macula was stopped and after the final treshold as discussed in many other threads Hugo is lost, and the only thing remaining is the Macula, killing Hugo at this point is what can be considered an act for the greater good, and that is the resolution of the story.

As for whether or not someone likes or dislikes the ending, you don't need to like or dislike the ending to understand it. I for example didn't "like" it, I would want Hugo to survive, but I understand the facts and reason why it happened the way it did.

[silentgameplays]

The main plot of this game is about acceptance,the title of the game A Plague Tale REQUIEM strongly implies that.

[Setzer]

Originally posted by kristijan.123:

Originally posted by Setzer:

I don't know why some people like this ending or tolerate it. It is a complete disaster and I will explain why.

The main problem with the ending is that it violates everything a story should have: resolution of the main plot.

Let me ask you, which is the main plot in this game?

Yes, the main plot is SAVING HUGO. Not once they talked about SAVING THE WORLD FROM HUGO(or the Macula). NOT ONCE.

So the main plot goes unresolved. If you wanted to give it a sad ending, just have Amicia sacrifice herself to save Hugo, that would be a completely different thing. But this ending resolves NOTHING.

This would be as if in TLOTR Frodo would get to Mordor, but then put the ring and get found by Sauron and he takes over the world. It makes no sense. Why go through all that trouble for nothing? Why would that be a story that needed to be told? Would that even BE a story? Wouldn't it just be just an anecdote or something?

Makes me want to have physical copies of the games to throw them in the trash, because that's what happens with all our efforts to save Hugo, they go in the trash.

I am really confused as to why they gave it this ending, because during the course of the game it shows very good story telling skills.

I didn't even cry with the ending, I was so confused as to what was happening.

♥♥♥♥ this, I really liked this title. Now I don't even know if I would play a 3rd game or anything by this studio.

I think you fail to understand the bigger picture and the plot in general.

The plot was not to just "Save Hugo" the plot was to stop the Macula progress.
Saving Hugo is just Amicia's personal goal, she wants to do anything to achieve that, but ultimately fails.
But the Macula was stopped and after the final treshold as discussed in many other threads Hugo is lost, and the only thing remaining is the Macula, killing Hugo at this point is what can be considered an act for the greater good, and that is the resolution of the story.

As for whether or not someone likes or dislikes the ending, you don't need to like or dislike the ending to understand it. I for example didn't "like" it, I would want Hugo to survive, but I understand the facts and reason why it happened the way it did.

I'm sorry, but when did anyone care about stopping the Macula? If anything they just felt guilty a lot of people were dying, but they never actively tried to stop it. If so they would've considered killing Hugo way sooner, like almost at the beginning of the game.

[Sovereign]

Originally posted by Setzer:

Originally posted by kristijan.123:

I think you fail to understand the bigger picture and the plot in general.

The plot was not to just "Save Hugo" the plot was to stop the Macula progress.
Saving Hugo is just Amicia's personal goal, she wants to do anything to achieve that, but ultimately fails.
But the Macula was stopped and after the final treshold as discussed in many other threads Hugo is lost, and the only thing remaining is the Macula, killing Hugo at this point is what can be considered an act for the greater good, and that is the resolution of the story.

As for whether or not someone likes or dislikes the ending, you don't need to like or dislike the ending to understand it. I for example didn't "like" it, I would want Hugo to survive, but I understand the facts and reason why it happened the way it did.

I'm sorry, but when did anyone care about stopping the Macula? If anything they just felt guilty a lot of people were dying, but they never actively tried to stop it. If so they would've considered killing Hugo way sooner, like almost at the beginning of the game.

The Order wanted to stop the Macula regardless of how it effected Hugo, Amecia wanted to stop the Macula in order to save Hugo, curing Hugo and stopping the Macula are one in the same.

[Setzer]

Originally posted by Sovereign:

Originally posted by Setzer:

I'm sorry, but when did anyone care about stopping the Macula? If anything they just felt guilty a lot of people were dying, but they never actively tried to stop it. If so they would've considered killing Hugo way sooner, like almost at the beginning of the game.

The Order wanted to stop the Macula regardless of how it effected Hugo, Amecia wanted to stop the Macula in order to save Hugo, curing Hugo and stopping the Macula are one in the same.

So... the bad guys win? Maybe Star Wars should've ended with the empire conquering the universe for a better ending.

[kristijan.123]

Originally posted by Setzer:

Originally posted by Sovereign:

The Order wanted to stop the Macula regardless of how it effected Hugo, Amecia wanted to stop the Macula in order to save Hugo, curing Hugo and stopping the Macula are one in the same.

So... the bad guys win? Maybe Star Wars should've ended with the empire conquering the universe for a better ending.

And who said anything about bad guys winning?

[Sovereign]

Originally posted by Setzer:

Originally posted by Sovereign:

The Order wanted to stop the Macula regardless of how it effected Hugo, Amecia wanted to stop the Macula in order to save Hugo, curing Hugo and stopping the Macula are one in the same.

So... the bad guys win? Maybe Star Wars should've ended with the empire conquering the universe for a better ending.

In this case no, the Count and his Cult are destroyed and the Macula is stopped, neither of the games antagonists "win".

Even then there is nothing wrong the antagonists being victorious, there are many great stories were the heroes fail and villains succeed. Again not everything needs to play out like a Saturday-morning cartoon where good always triumphs over evil.