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The Purple Guy Oct 30, 2022 @ 11:16pm
Gary is impossible for me
The most rng garbage I've ever seen. So matter what I do 1 or 2 seals will always completely block me so Gary can kill me
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Originally posted by MegaMan:
The main problem people have is RNG. If Gary phase 1 decides to launch straight at you and your cross doesn't spawn nearby, if Gary phase 2 decides to put a seal in your path when he's about to charge, if the rejected vessel in the apartments goes berserk straight in your direction, that's it. No amount of caution is going to save you because none of those scenarios allow adequate time to evade them. This problem isn't noticeable for most players because the checkpoints are forgiving and if you can just jump right back in to the fight, you're bound to get more favorable patterns.

It's a pain in the ass for the GCB achievement because all of these bosses are backloaded at the end of part 3 and you only get one shot at them. None of the first two parts have bosses with this level of RNG, making it extremely tedious to replay them just for another chance at the later bosses which can just end your run and there's nothing you can do about it.

"Get the good ending in each part without dying" would make much more sense as an achievement. Part 3 would still be ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ but at least you wouldn't have to replay 1 and 2 each time.
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boombafunk Oct 31, 2022 @ 1:44am 
Both Gary fights are probably the reason why pretty much no one has gotten the Good Christian Boy achievement! Most of my deaths for 2nd Gary are also because of the seals conveniently blocking me during his charge or were placed between the top wall and the dead body. Personally I think they should make it flash before it is formed.
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Karadras Oct 31, 2022 @ 5:14am 
It's a very frustrating design and the boss fight is way too long.
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aywee Oct 31, 2022 @ 5:57am 
I remember Airdorf saying that he plans to make Gary & Malphas easier.
Last edited by aywee; Oct 31, 2022 @ 6:20am
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danmaku Oct 31, 2022 @ 1:41pm 
If they cut the HP a bit that would be nice. I mean super miriam is a cakewalk compared to them
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Davilis Oct 31, 2022 @ 4:50pm 
I've been stuck on G&M for a while and personally it's REALLY dragging the finale down. I don't know what would be the optimal change to improve it, perhaps toning down the seals, letting us exorcise M's arrows, or maybe even adding in checkpoints between phases like the final boss of Chapter 2. I think it's current state is just more frustrating than anything.
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aywee Oct 31, 2022 @ 5:23pm 
Originally posted by Davilis:
I've been stuck on G&M for a while and personally it's REALLY dragging the finale down. I don't know what would be the optimal change to improve it, perhaps toning down the seals, letting us exorcise M's arrows, or maybe even adding in checkpoints between phases like the final boss of Chapter 2. I think it's current state is just more frustrating than anything.
Or maybe sharing divine interventions between all 3 phases. Just a thought.
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Fracture94 Oct 31, 2022 @ 6:08pm 
Originally posted by boombafunk:
Both Gary fights are probably the reason why pretty much no one has gotten the Good Christian Boy achievement! Most of my deaths for 2nd Gary are also because of the seals conveniently blocking me during his charge or were placed between the top wall and the dead body. Personally I think they should be removed.

Damn, i was pretty excited to try this achievement, as i love this kind of challenges in games, but that seems discouraging. I dont know how those fights are, since i haven't reached the true good ending yet, but you guys make them sound really bad... Completing the whole marathon mode just to screw it at the last moment must feel horrible.
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Xavier: Renegade Angel Oct 31, 2022 @ 9:05pm 
I beat it on my 3rd or 4th try. The seal placement can be annoying and i was probably 1 pixel away from Gary killing me most of the time but I didn't find it to hard.
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Davilis Oct 31, 2022 @ 11:57pm 
Originally posted by Mr. Transport:
I beat it on my 3rd or 4th try. The seal placement can be annoying and i was probably 1 pixel away from Gary killing me most of the time but I didn't find it to hard.

Good work my son. Perhaps in these trying times, all we need is to have a little more FAITH: The Unholy Trilogy (2022).
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Terra Nov 1, 2022 @ 2:33am 
Originally posted by Fracture94:
Originally posted by boombafunk:
Both Gary fights are probably the reason why pretty much no one has gotten the Good Christian Boy achievement! Most of my deaths for 2nd Gary are also because of the seals conveniently blocking me during his charge or were placed between the top wall and the dead body. Personally I think they should be removed.

Damn, i was pretty excited to try this achievement, as i love this kind of challenges in games, but that seems discouraging. I dont know how those fights are, since i haven't reached the true good ending yet, but you guys make them sound really bad... Completing the whole marathon mode just to screw it at the last moment must feel horrible.

I feel like all the fights in 1 and 2 are good - in that you learn their pattern and you can clear half of them blindfolded - but 3 basically requires divine intervention to pull off.
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MrGrudge Nov 1, 2022 @ 11:07am 
I found the first Gary fight to be one of the less difficult ones in the entire series because you don't insta-die when hit, however you get screwed if your dropped crucifix somehow landed on the other side of the map (which happened to me twice.) However the lack of a checkpoint in his second fight in the Crucible was just obnoxious. If anything I would consider it thematically appropriate if that fight was made easier given all the bonus bosses you had to fight to even get to that point and Gary was already wounded by Father Garcia. You're fighting a desperate Gary but not one at his full power, after all he had to call in Malphas for backup.
Last edited by MrGrudge; Nov 1, 2022 @ 11:10am
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Johnny Casey Nov 1, 2022 @ 3:30pm 
Developers have confirmed to adjust the difficulty on Gary's second phase, so let us wait for the update and pray to the LORD in the meantime.
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GladiatorA19 Nov 1, 2022 @ 4:13pm 
Honestly I think the only problem is how much health Gary has. 50% health might be too little but like 75% current health would be way better. It's just very tedious.
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ira Nov 1, 2022 @ 5:28pm 
it took me ridiculously long to just get past phase 1. phase 2 was easy. phase three, the final boss, the big bad...was easy, but in a good, 'i deserve this after all this sh!t' way.
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0menX Nov 1, 2022 @ 5:40pm 
Originally posted by helion:
it took me ridiculously long to just get past phase 1. phase 2 was easy. phase three, the final boss, the big bad...was easy, but in a good, 'i deserve this after all this sh!t' way.

OMG there is a third phase? And no phase 2 is not easy, it has even more randomness. I have no more FAITH in this for today, need to sleep.
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