Shiren the Wanderer: The Tower of Fortune and the Dice of Fate

Shiren the Wanderer: The Tower of Fortune and the Dice of Fate

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Rontemon Sep 9, 2020 @ 11:54pm
Is this better than Azure Dreams?
Azure Dreams is my favourite "mystery dungeon" type game among all other mystery dungeons, second to Chocobo Dungeon 2.

So how good is this Shiren?

Edit: the most exciting part about Azure Dreams for me was coming across that mystery monster egg, hatching it, leveling it up and evolving it! Does Shiren has anything like this that would make you hyped up like coming across a valuable item in the dungeon?

If there is one thing I disliked about Azure Dreams, it was probably the runs where I never found a single wind crystal!
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q0099 Sep 11, 2020 @ 10:43am 
First, as far as I know there is no monster trainer mechanic in this game. The closest thing is the monster license mechanics, which turns a certain monster type into an ally (not just one monster, all of them of the cretain type), making them attack the other monsters rather than the player. But, surprisingly, player could actually level up their equipment, like weapons and shields.
As for is that better than the Azure Dreams, it's pretty much on the same par regarding the gameplay entertainment but ToFDoF has much more variety in dungeons and game mechanics, like having allies or using trapper armband.
Last edited by q0099; Sep 11, 2020 @ 10:51am
F Oct 7, 2020 @ 9:37pm 
Debatable. I had more fun with Shiren, but both are fun games!
Ikagura Oct 8, 2020 @ 2:11am 
What's Azure Dream?
q0099 Oct 8, 2020 @ 9:45am 
Azure Dreams is a roguelike released at PS1 and GBC. The main catch of the game was a monster trainer mechanics - player could command (not directly) up to two monster companions, which was supporting him in a battle or being useful in other ways.
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1stReaper Jul 21, 2022 @ 12:28pm 
Originally posted by Ikagura:
What's Azure Dream?
its a game well worth investing the time and energy into :),
ive been trying to find a game that can hold a candle it to,

was googleing games like it when i came across this and dungeon dreams,
so i was just wondering could anyone tell me how much of the game is like AD ?
google said games like dark cloud and rune factory are like them.....
but in my opinion they arent even close to being like it :<
Space Noodle Sep 6, 2022 @ 4:30pm 
Nothing is better than Azure Dreams.
Rontemon Sep 6, 2022 @ 7:11pm 
Originally posted by Space Noodle:
Nothing is better than Azure Dreams.

How I wish there is a Azure Dreams remake/remaster.
1stReaper Sep 7, 2022 @ 3:53am 
Originally posted by Space Noodle:
Nothing is better than Azure Dreams.
truer words have never been spoken :P

Originally posted by Merciful:
Originally posted by Space Noodle:
Nothing is better than Azure Dreams.

How I wish there is a Azure Dreams remake/remaster.
truer things have never been wished :)
Reality Sep 10, 2022 @ 7:25am 
It's tough, I think I would like Shiren more, but prefer Azure just because I don't have quite enough time to invest to do Shiren justice.

I would say things that matter to me -

In Azure you always have the "emergency option" of picking up and chucking monsters, while in Shiren, if you run out of resources, you REALLY run out of them.

Monsters in Shiren are more memorable special ability wise, REALLY more Memorable.

Shiren has faster animations which matters a lot culmatilvely over 99 floors

Some dungeons in Shiren kind of "overfocus" on the players ability to identify items early - its fun to a point but other times getting anti-fire/anti explosion is forced at gunpoint because doing 8 floors in a row with the applicable enemy isn't going to happen.

Shiren has 30 dungeons (counting the Story Dungeons as a single 35 floor dungeon) - 5 with carry in items, the rest putting you in the pure Level 1 + single food start. I think the single megadungeon is the most important over all the gimmick dungons in any game of this type, but it is nice to have the options there.

Shiren's Story mode doesnt showcase where the game goes very well (mostly level 2 monsters at end) it is a major shock to find out about the "Floor Wide Monster abilities" compared to the "Room Wide" ones if you aren't expecting it, and permenat item destruction via Grass King / Onigiri King transforming things start to reinforce the "have a backup plan for your backup plan" mentality.

I like Azure Dreams because everything more or less builds on what came before, but I got to give props to Shiren's pulling the rug out from under you again and again.
1stReaper Sep 25, 2022 @ 2:12pm 
Originally posted by Aepoh:
Is Azure Dreams anything like Pokémon Mystery Dungeon?
<jaw drops>
casual Jun 25, 2023 @ 9:36pm 
am late but i want to tell you there is a game series inspired by azure dreams its called dungeon dreams

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1010670/Dungeon_Dreams/

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1843470/Dungeon_Dreams_2/

dungeon dreams 1 already released and dungeon dreams 2 is now in beta test once beta test is over it will be released, dungeon dreams 2 is better then dungeon dreams 1, but both of them are nice

here is the discord channel for dungeon dreams

https://discord.gg/pHaebDkb
Clancy McFancy Nov 21, 2023 @ 5:06am 
shiren is more comparable to Baroque than AD
Clancy McFancy Nov 21, 2023 @ 5:07am 
Originally posted by casual:
am late but i want to tell you there is a game series inspired by azure dreams its called dungeon dreams

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1010670/Dungeon_Dreams/

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1843470/Dungeon_Dreams_2/

dungeon dreams 1 already released and dungeon dreams 2 is now in beta test once beta test is over it will be released, dungeon dreams 2 is better then dungeon dreams 1, but both of them are nice

here is the discord channel for dungeon dreams

https://discord.gg/pHaebDkb
hell no
Aepoh Nov 21, 2023 @ 7:39am 
Which is better, GBC Azure Dreams or PS1 Azure Dreams?
casual Nov 21, 2023 @ 8:34am 
Originally posted by Clancy McFancy:
Originally posted by casual:
am late but i want to tell you there is a game series inspired by azure dreams its called dungeon dreams

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1010670/Dungeon_Dreams/

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1843470/Dungeon_Dreams_2/

dungeon dreams 1 already released and dungeon dreams 2 is now in beta test once beta test is over it will be released, dungeon dreams 2 is better then dungeon dreams 1, but both of them are nice

here is the discord channel for dungeon dreams

https://discord.gg/pHaebDkb
hell no

did you even try the game? no need to buy it to try it, you can get the free demo and try it and you will find many things similar to azure dreams i buy both dungeon dreams 1 and 2 they are very good i highly recommend you at least try the demo version

and since am here i want to recommend to everyone here 2 games in steam that i very much like they are wandering sword and Hero's Adventure: Road to Passion
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