Denevo equals no buy!

[FastEddieFelson-]

If they remove the copy protection I'll buy, otherwise not
Better yet sell it on gog

[Yekkusu]

Why though?
You mean because Denuvo makes the game slower? The cases which this was the case are very small, and mostly on older games. Even Resident Evil 8, hackes said when they cracked the game that the Anti-Piracy code CREATED by CAPCOM which was used TOGETHER with Denuvo was the reason why the game had so many stuttering issues. They said Denuvo's code wasn't making any issues with the game, because Denuvo only checks for the code during Loading phases. Capcom wanted the game to check every X minutes, so they added their own code to the mix. They removed only their code, Denuvo is still active in that game, and it works wonders.

Now, if you don't want Denuvo because you wanna play the game Offline, I agree it's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ not being able to play a game when you're offline, but I also understand the developers side of thing.

A Game only gives you money, the kind of money which pays for the development of a game, on the first and second months, if the game is not cracked by then, they did get the money they needed. Sadly when a game is released without Denuvo on any store it gets cracked the exact same day, which means you lose a lot of sells. That's just how things works, some people want to pay for the game, others would never pay for it unless it's like 90% off. XD

So, what I can tell you is this: If your issue is FPS's and performance, this game runs mostly fine for most people, without issues. It's very rare for the FPS to drop and it only happens to me in one particularly scene on one screen map that you can only access during a special mission and then you never can go there again because you're inside a dream.

If your issue is with anything else, well, that's just how life goes. Even if you buy the game from another store, it will still have the DRM activated, and will only be removed years later.

I do know that DRM was the issue with Nier Automata, but remember: Nier Automata almost has no loading at all, so the problem there was probably code made by Square Enix to check every second if you were playing an authentic copy.

[the_randomizer1889]

Denuvo in a single-player game, esp. preventing offline gaming, is a lame concept and very anti consumer.

[FafnirChaos]

The recently removed Denevo on MHW and the people complaining about the program slowing down the game still complained about the game running slow after the removal..... Thus it was determined that their system wasn't able to run it, and that the copyright protection was barely anything compared to what the actual game was on their systems.

I have never had a problem with Denevo, and I can't say I care. Unless I'm a pirate.

[dar_haseo_2]

I have never had a problem with Denevo either.

[FastEddieFelson-]

When I pay for a game, I want to own it and do what I want with it. Not be tied down with drm. A lot of games I paid for (bought) I also downloaded the pirated version and installed that so I don't have to deal with drm.
What started me doing this was a game I bought years ago with drm and when the company went out of business, I lost the ability to play the game I paid for anymore!

[geonelv13]

Because of a hurricane I had power and internet outages for about a week. I wanted to play some Legend of Mana. But the Denuvo check failed, and the game simply wouldn’t open. So yeah, I learned my lesson. Never again I will support a game that releases with Denuvo.

[Sigs]

I cannot imagine people simping for Denuvo like they are here. First response in this thread shoots himself in the foot and is a copy/paste from somewhere else.

Denuvo lovers seem to have a fairly large list of excuses made by Denuvo as to why the product is terrible, huh? Interesting, that.

The framerate chugging and 4s/min slowdown in this remaster will, I can almost guarantee, magically disappear once Square guts denuvo from this title as well. (Then you'll just be stuck with the 'normal' pauses)

[FastEddieFelson-]

Originally posted by dar_haseo_2:

I have never had a problem with Denevo either.

It has nothing with having a problem with denevo or not. I don't have a problem playing a game while my leg is chained to a chair, but I'm not doing that either

[AuldWolf]

You can just see the marketing guys here false-flagging in the hopes of tricking the gullible into believing that trashware like Denuvo has no negative effects. Basically, this happens a lot. A marketing company who has a bunch of very convincing looking accounts on various platforms is paid to make positive comments about a product. Marekting 101.

Don't fall for it. Instead, look for the evidence.

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/12/evidence-continues-to-mount-about-how-bad-denuvo-is-for-pc-gaming-performance/

And the evidence has only mounted since then, you can find thousands of threads and articles.

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/drm-chaos-left-major-pc-games-briefly-unplayable-this-weekend/

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/aypvqo/denuvofree_version_of_devil_may_cry_5_shows_a_lot/

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211109/09064247908/denuvo-games-once-again-broken-paying-customers-thanks-to-drm-mishap.shtml

I could go on, but the point is proven. If the servers fail to uphold their end of what's necessary? The paying customers suffer. If you don't have a magical high-end configuration of hardware to support all of the extra processing done by Denuvo's paranoid services? The paying customers suffer.

I mean, sure, if you're a middle- to upper-class person with a 3080 RTX, an Alder Lake proc, and all that jazz, and it doesn't hit your perfomance too hard? Good for you, live your best life. The truth is is that the evidence shows that this CLEARLY isn't the case for the MAJORITY of gamers.

Denuvo is trashware, it's a scam, a confidence plot, it's like NFTs. It's something that you trick investors into believing is worthwhiel because they don't know better. In that respect, Denuvo is exactly like NFTs. In the respect that it boils away more electricity for no real purpose also makes it exactly like NFTs.

I will never buy a Denuvo game for this reason. I do support Steam at every opportunity I get, but I don't support scams.

Denuvo is a scam. It's scamming the clueless executives and gamers who believe foolishly that it serves any purpose. This kind of trahsware is just like NFTs, you're being sold an idea about boogeymen that don't exist and a solution that doesn't actually prevent piracy to begin with. All it does is harm the customers.

To reiterate? Denuvo is a scam.

Feel free to share this post around.

[dar_haseo_2]

Originally posted by FastEddieFelson-:

Originally posted by dar_haseo_2:

I have never had a problem with Denevo either.

It has nothing with having a problem with denevo or not. I don't have a problem playing a game while my leg is chained to a chair, but I'm not doing that either

What I mean is it never affect my game performances.

[Azure Fang]

Well, now you can buy it. Denuvo was removed with yesterday's patch.

[shade00]

Originally posted by Azure Fang:

Well, now you can buy it. Denuvo was removed with yesterday's patch.

they really should update the title, as now its going to confuse people

[fabio.capela]

Originally posted by dar_haseo_2:

What I mean is it never affect my game performances.

Game performance is just one of the downsides of Denuvo. I doubt it would cause issues for me either, but I still don't purchase anything that has it.

Originally posted by Azure Fang:

Well, now you can buy it. Denuvo was removed with yesterday's patch.

It's on my wishlist, but I only buy any game that ever used Denuvo when it's on sale at a hefty discount.

Not that I really need this version, I still have a working copy of the original, and besides I consider Legend of Mana to be one of the weakest titles in the whole Mana series even if it's still reasonably enjoyable.

[shade00]

something that kinda is key, any added programs has the chance to create issuies with said game, learned that long ago, its same as if you mod a game, the mod could enhance or break it.
not saying it breaks games, but thinking on it, it is possible as a secondary program running to mess with performance.