Can't get other choices to be available

[Ashley]

I played this last week and made it to the good Keisuke ending, but I've been trying to go back and play it to get the good Shiki ending after looking up multiple walkthroughs and none of them have worked for me. You're supposed to get a "ask Rin about the picture / think nothing of it" option when Rin drops his pictures but I cannot get it. I first tried doing the game from the save point where I had my first choice with Keisuke, but got no picture asking choice. Then I started a whole new game and I STILL cannot get a choice to ask about the picture. I have no idea what to do and every walkthrough seems different so I have no idea what's what. I would also like to get all of the other endings but I want to focus on Shiki right now. I also don't know what a lot of these walkthroughs mean when they save "load save 9" or "save 5" because not every walkthrough I've seen mentions "saves"

[lovenliberty]

Before you can play Shiki's routes, either "good" or "bad", you need to go through all the other characters' routes. I think the choice you mean is "It doesn't matter." / "Who is he?" and it will appear once you're done with the other characters.

[Ashley]

Ah, really? Okay, thanks! Yeah, those were the corrects words but I couldn't exactly remember them so I just kind of phrased it differently.

But do you know what the WT's on here mean when they keep saying after a choice option "load save 9 / 3 / 5, etc" ?

Also I thought I read that even when you play to certain character's endings there is a possibility you can't get to OTHER'S endings? By that I mean, I saw that if you get to Gunji and Kiriwar's endings you can't do other endings (Like Arbitro). Is that not true then? And if that's the case, does it matter whose ending I get beforehand? if I can find the page, I'll link it if Steam lets me (this is my first time using Steam, so I'm not 100% sure what their link rules are.)

Oh, and I guess to just be clear on all the correct amount of endings, is it this?:

Keisuke 3 (1 good, 2 bad)
Motomi 1
Rin 1
Arbitro 1
Nano 1
Gunji 1
Kiriwar 1


And Shiki will have 3, 1 good and 2 bad?

Again thank you for the help! I was driving myself crazy trying to figure that out.

[Ashley]

Originally posted by lovenliberty:

Before you can play Shiki's routes, either "good" or "bad", you need to go through all the other characters' routes. I think the choice you mean is "It doesn't matter." / "Who is he?" and it will appear once you're done with the other characters.

Originally posted by hystericbarbie:

Ah, really? Okay, thanks! Yeah, those were the corrects words but I couldn't exactly remember them so I just kind of phrased it differently.

But do you know what the WT's on here mean when they keep saying after a choice option "load save 9 / 3 / 5, etc" ?

Also I thought I read that even when you play to certain character's endings there is a possibility you can't get to OTHER'S endings? By that I mean, I saw that if you get to Gunji and Kiriwar's endings you can't do other endings (Like Arbitro). Is that not true then? And if that's the case, does it matter whose ending I get beforehand? if I can find the page, I'll link it if Steam lets me (this is my first time using Steam, so I'm not 100% sure what their link rules are.)

Oh, and I guess to just be clear on all the correct amount of endings, is it this?:

Keisuke 3 (1 good, 2 bad)
Motomi 1
Rin 1
Arbitro 1
Nano 1
Gunji 1
Kiriwar 1


And Shiki will have 3, 1 good and 2 bad?

Again thank you for the help! I was driving myself crazy trying to figure that out.

This is the site I was talking about.

https://strategywiki.org/wiki/Togainu_no_Chi/Walkthrough

Whenever I look up anybody's endings they all have the "it doesn't matter / who is he" options, so this had me really confused with what the WT's Steam has.

[lovenliberty]

Originally posted by hystericbarbie:

But do you know what the WT's on here mean when they keep saying after a choice option "load save 9 / 3 / 5, etc" ?

I don't know as each guide uses its own system and save file numbering.

There are Steam guides for the Steam version of the game, pick whichever one you like best:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1174400/guides/

Originally posted by hystericbarbie:

Also I thought I read that even when you play to certain character's endings there is a possibility you can't get to OTHER'S endings? By that I mean, I saw that if you get to Gunji and Kiriwar's endings you can't do other endings (Like Arbitro). Is that not true then? And if that's the case, does it matter whose ending I get beforehand?

Recommended route order: Gunji / Kiriwar -> Arbitro -> Keisuke -> Motomi -> Rin -> Shiki -> Nano

Gunji / Kiriwar endings are basically game overs. Once you get them, return to an earlier choice and choose sth else. No ending locks you out of any other endings, but to get to Shiki and Nano's routes you have to play through the other characters' endings first to make the choices for Shiki and then Nano appear.

Originally posted by hystericbarbie:

Oh, and I guess to just be clear on all the correct amount of endings, is it this?:

Keisuke 3 (1 good, 2 bad)
Motomi 1
Rin 1
Arbitro 1
Nano 1
Gunji 1
Kiriwar 1

And Shiki will have 3, 1 good and 2 bad?

It is, though YMMV on which endings are good and bad in Shiki's case. There are 3 in total, that's correct.

[lovenliberty]

In the Strategy Wiki guide, it seems like it is assumed that the player has already completed the game and unlocked everything, so all choices are listed.

[Ashley]

Originally posted by lovenliberty:

Originally posted by hystericbarbie:

But do you know what the WT's on here mean when they keep saying after a choice option "load save 9 / 3 / 5, etc" ?

I don't know as each guide uses its own system and save file numbering.

There are Steam guides for the Steam version of the game, pick whichever one you like best:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1174400/guides/

Originally posted by hystericbarbie:

Also I thought I read that even when you play to certain character's endings there is a possibility you can't get to OTHER'S endings? By that I mean, I saw that if you get to Gunji and Kiriwar's endings you can't do other endings (Like Arbitro). Is that not true then? And if that's the case, does it matter whose ending I get beforehand?

Recommended route order: Gunji / Kiriwar -> Arbitro -> Keisuke -> Motomi -> Rin -> Shiki -> Nano

Gunji / Kiriwar endings are basically game overs. Once you get them, return to an earlier choice and choose sth else. No ending locks you out of any other endings, but to get to Shiki and Nano's routes you have to play through the other characters' endings first to make the choices for Shiki and then Nano appear.

Originally posted by hystericbarbie:

Oh, and I guess to just be clear on all the correct amount of endings, is it this?:

Keisuke 3 (1 good, 2 bad)
Motomi 1
Rin 1
Arbitro 1
Nano 1
Gunji 1
Kiriwar 1

And Shiki will have 3, 1 good and 2 bad?

It is, though YMMV on which endings are good and bad in Shiki's case. There are 3 in total, that's correct.

Thank you so much! I will give it a try the way you suggested because I'm especially curious about Gunji/Kiriwar/Arbitro endings. I'm going to ignore the guide for the link I put because it just always give the option for the picture, which is one thing that kept screwing me up.

Thank you sooo much for the help!
♥

[lovenliberty]

[Alpha]

I only did Rin route before doing Shiki's. Didn't finish the other two. Nano requires all though.

[Ashley]

Originally posted by Alpha:

I only did Rin route before doing Shiki's. Didn't finish the other two. Nano requires all though.

Wonder if that would have worked out for me too. I'm actually done with Shunji, Kiriwar, Arbitro, Keisuke's, Motomi and am currently doing Rin's.

I do have a question. I have almost all of Keisuke's gallery pictures except for the last one. Do I have to get it from someone else's ending or do I need to go back and play Keisuke's good ending to get it?

[lovenliberty]

You'll get it from Nano's route, I think.

[RJJacob101]

I really wish there was a way to save Takeru, his is such a tragic story. I also wouldn't mind him being a love interest too lmao but damn, at least let me help the guy! Love this VN so much!!!