why won't Square officially fix the fonts?

[Denyal]

yes, I know there are groups of people modding the games, but Square should still release officially a good pixel remaster, modders shouldn't have to fix their game and people shouldn't have to go to external places to fix it

EDIT: some people say Square won't fix the fonts because of this:
https://developer.apple.com/design/human-interface-guidelines/ios/visual-design/typography/

Basically in order for the game to be on the IOs store it has to use one of those fonts and nothing else.

[StrikerTheHedgefox]

Use the font posted here: https://gameplay.tips/guides/12021-final-fantasy.html

It's pretty easy to set up. This replaces the garbage Microsoft Arial Condensed font in the game with the font from Final Fantasy 6 on SNES.

If this link goes down, let me know, and I'll try to repost a new URL.

Denyal님이 먼저 게시:

EDIT: some people say Square won't fix the fonts because of this:
https://developer.apple.com/design/human-interface-guidelines/ios/visual-design/typography/

Basically in order for the game to be on the IOs store it has to use one of those fonts and nothing else.

Leave it to Apple to turn everything to ♥♥♥♥.

Scottrick님이 먼저 게시:

I really wish mods would lock these topics. The entitlement is OOZING from these Karens.

Wanting a visually consistent and legible font is hardly being entitled. Square's decision to use the condensed font they did is absolutely baffling, considering the Japanese font package they're already using has a wider, and more legible characters than the English font package (while still being able to display English...).

Also, something a lot of people aren't considering here: The condensed font is almost completely unreadable on small, low-resolution monitors (like a netbook I tried it on, which peaks at a resolution of 1024x600. The font was aliasing to crap and whole columns of pixels were missing).

[Zunnoab #931]

fangisboss님이 먼저 게시:

Neiro님이 먼저 게시:

I'm just quoting Koby "it's subjective" .
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Have a nice day.

Hey you don't have this PR FF4 version; since FF4 PR is sounding and almost looking like a reused FF1-3 by now, it's getting dry, real quick, at least have some diversity in areas such as sounds, UI design/position and the latter.

I suspect 1-3 were all based on FFIV's sounds/spells. If we get to FFV and FFVI and they still sound the same, or worse use the same spell graphics, I will not be happy.

Lost Drunk님이 먼저 게시:

Zunnoab #931님이 먼저 게시:

Please list the number of games you know of with a built in font selection option.

It would be nice, but it is unreasonable to call it "broken."

A simple Retro/Modern style option could solve this. Many games use this feature to old and new players enjoy a specific experience.

IRuleAll님이 먼저 게시:

you have severe issues if you think "the font is broken and it needs to be fixed"

Nice flame, try again using valid arguments.

Sephiroth님이 먼저 게시:

they are babies looking for something to whine about and are scared of their perfect old memory being replaced by the truth. these games look way fing better. that said i do replace the eng with ♥♥♥ font LOLLL.

also ur on PC just mod it....set it up good in a external hdd or somethign so you always have the perfect drag and drop folder structure somewhere to install the game good

What is wrong give to the developers any feedback and talk about things that can be improve the experience? Look that you can't not accept that people can see the font as a negative point.

Retro/modern isn't the only discussion happening here.

It's narrow vs. wider and high resolution vs. retro. They are two different preferences.

I prefer wider. I don't want artificially retro fonts. But I recognize it's a preference, not something that is "broken" and easily fixed by modifying the font files.

[ArmeniusLOD]

There is nothing broken about the font that needs fixing.

[MikeyMooMoo]

ArmeniusLOD님이 먼저 게시:

There is nothing broken about the font that needs fixing.

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[Lost Drunk]

BlueScreenOfDeath님이 먼저 게시:

Lost Drunk님이 먼저 게시:

This is called bad port. Even before the release the community already had bad impressions from the font if used out mobile devices and at same time until the release was ok because everyone thought that font couldn't be changed in a simple way.

That's your opinion and you are welcome to it. I do think it's the nature of development on today's multi-platform games, though. Especially ones like this that port well to mobile, are easy to pick up and put down for quick sessions, and have a cult-like following.

Unfortunately, I think the users on PC and consoles are in the minority... and those that care about the font enough to want to change it are an even smaller group. Considering the fonts are so easy to change, I think it makes complete sense on why things are the way they are and I highly doubt that any amount of griping will make them change it since this could potentially require them to have to start manage patching/updates on multiple builds across different platforms.

Agree and this maybe be the real issue.
The font is not the issue itself but how big companies like that don't really care about players. Many PC players use mods ou third party fixes because the developers can't do a better job in many smaller things that even amateurs could solve.

[MonkehMaster]

imagine square enix fixing the gross mobile-ish font, is just as bad imagining them fixing the misplaced grass tiles in the forest tiles in this FF 4 PR release), or all the other nonsense they decided was fine/good or decided to change or balance.... or "easy mode" because why not... i imagine they didnt check their work or even bother playtesting any of these releases at all...

i also imagine them claiming these mix n mash versions as "based on originals" when they arent.

not only do we not get paid to test their games like back in the day, now we are paying them money to test them, on top of, now its left to us customers to mod/fix games because devs cant be bothered to produce good products anymore or fix issues/bugs/ect.. (not saying all studios/devs are like this, but a fair majority are).

vote with your wallets people.

[MonkehMaster]

gob님이 먼저 게시:

The mobile market has completely ♥♥♥♥♥♥ over gaming as a whole and this is why these problems keep persisting, they need to stop making it for the phones.

very true, devs catering to mobile bs is screwing pc customers over.

[Stormy Dawn]

MonkehMaster님이 먼저 게시:

gob님이 먼저 게시:

The mobile market has completely ♥♥♥♥♥♥ over gaming as a whole and this is why these problems keep persisting, they need to stop making it for the phones.

very true, devs catering to mobile bs is screwing pc customers over.

PC market? It single-handedly killed the handheld console market before it ever did much damage to the PC market.

Anyway, it's here to stay unfortunately. I'm super not a fan of the mobile gaming market, but it has had and will continue to have a profound impact on the video game industry. Hopefully it will have a positive impact, which in ways it has.

Just as long as video game developers don't completely forsake other avenues in favor of mobile gaming, which unfortunately some Japanese developers have done, but most have realized it is not the end-all-be-all of the market share. Mobile gaming needs to be a significant part of the ever changing video game industry, but it cannot be the central focus.

[MonkehMaster]

Tsurayu님이 먼저 게시:

MonkehMaster님이 먼저 게시:

very true, devs catering to mobile bs is screwing pc customers over.

PC market? It single-handedly killed the handheld console market before it ever did much damage to the PC market.

Anyway, it's here to stay unfortunately. I'm super not a fan of the mobile gaming market, but it has had and will continue to have a profound impact on the video game industry. Hopefully it will have a positive impact, which in ways it has.

Just as long as video game developers don't completely forsake other avenues in favor of mobile gaming, which unfortunately some Japanese developers have done, but most have realized it is not the end-all-be-all of the market share. Mobile gaming needs to be a significant part of the ever changing video game industry, but it cannot be the central focus.

sorry but i disagree, mobile gaming is trash and should not be mixed in with pc gaming.

[MonkehMaster]

Dyex님이 먼저 게시:

I rather see them help people with color blind mode before they even listen to nitpicks complain about a font choice, lol.

If people wanted legitimate large text for people who need it, surething. But this is just people looking for things to criticism the game or company.

its not nitpicking or "people looking for things to complain about", its a legit complaint.....

the thing is, the small squished font looks fine on mobile, simply because its still bigger text when viewed on mobile, but much different when viewed on pc.

[Stormy Dawn]

MonkehMaster님이 먼저 게시:

sorry but i disagree, mobile gaming is trash and should not be mixed in with pc gaming.

My point is I don't think we have a choice. It's here, it's big, and it's not going anywhere.

Believe me. I get it. I don't like it either. At all.

I'm an old-fashioned geezer who thinks phones should be for calling people and tablets and other mobile devices should be nothing more than a simplistic alternative to a computer that can be used on the go. I hate that it has become a hub of video gaming, but me hating it isn't going to change the fact that many people support it.

[Dyex]

MonkehMaster님이 먼저 게시:

Dyex님이 먼저 게시:

I rather see them help people with color blind mode before they even listen to nitpicks complain about a font choice, lol.

If people wanted legitimate large text for people who need it, surething. But this is just people looking for things to criticism the game or company.

its not nitpicking or "people looking for things to complain about", its a legit complaint.....

the thing is, the small squished font looks fine on mobile, simply because its still bigger text when viewed on mobile, but much different when viewed on pc.

Of course it's nitpicking.

I can nitpick too, I prefer the orginal dialog where it was
(NAME):text
In stead now they color code and put the name at the top of the text pop-up window.

Do I need to stand up on a soap box and gripe about it? No.
Do I need to connect this to Square got no idea what their fans (me) want? that would be a stretch.

Hey at least you can now you can close the game from the title menu now.

Anyways I myself feel there no cause to gripe about these small things.

[MonkehMaster]

Dyex님이 먼저 게시:

Hey at least you can now you can close the game from the title menu now.

since when?

according to the link below, its not in the correct menu (the main menu), its in the configuration menu, when its not a configuration option...

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1173800/discussions/0/3042733612655775591/

[Dyex]

MonkehMaster님이 먼저 게시:

Maybe it's me.
You still need to menu to configuration to quit/leave to title screen in game progress.

But I thought you had to do that too in the past to quit from main title screen too. That might be me not recalling correctly.

[Zunnoab #931]

It's completely arbitrary to complain about phone games. I think it's a pretty much outright made up reason too in this case.

Why would this mythical "mobile" Boogeyman have anything to do with the font? Firstly, modern phones wipe the floor with any non-mobile machines like 10-14 years old or so. Secondly, I don't think any smartphone had a resolution low enough that a special font would be required. Thirdly, the Japanese font is wider in this very same release.

It's just downright made up to have a knee-jerk mobile demonizing rant about the font. It's also downright made up to claim "most" can't stand the font.

I doubt I'd have even noticed if people didn't throw a fit over it, even if I like the wider one better.

There was less melodrama over the actually serious bugs when FFV old version released.