Any effective way to farm bomb summon?

[George]

Is the lunar east tunnel the best way to farm bomb? or are there places where you can 100% siren the balloon enemies?

[Bronzki]

Unfortunately you can't use a Siren to force a battle. I'm up to 1345 Dark Grenades and Balloon and still no drop. I got really lucky and got the other three, plus the Pink Tail relatively quickly, so now RNGesus has forsaken me.

[zebulous_newt]

one of the bomb monsters on the moon blows up all enemies on screen if you hit it with lightning. I can't remember which one it is. It is a really great way to spend 5 mp, and if it happens to be the Dark Grenade it should speed things up for you.

[Apoc]

Someone in another topic mentioned the West Tunnel seems better in this version and that's where I've been farming. There are two encounters with Dark Grenades there, 3x with 1x Chaos(?) Worm and 2x with 2x Balloons. You still have 4 or 5 other possible encounters there but there other places I tried I had only the 2x 2x and not the one with the worms. Might be simply bad luck and it's the same encounters everywhere on the moon.

[Bronzki]

Finally got it. Took 495 Balloons and 1177 Dark Grenades before it dropped. Got them all, so I'm done with this game.

[Toxic Octopus]

Got it on MT Fabul, 10 fights in.

[George]

w8? you cant in Mount fabul , only enemies there are bomb , gray bomb and mom bomb , neither of them drop bomb (yeah exactly like that...). Only balloons and grey balloons on moon do that

[Gumpo]

Originally posted by Rush616:

Got it on MT Fabul, 10 fights in.

Nope. Not in un-modded Pixel Remaster at least. (I think on SNES it dropped from all of them with a pretty high rate, at least on the original US version I most remember playing.)

Earliest bomb that drops the bomb summon in the PR is in the tower of Babil.

[Katie]

So they changed the Bomb summon to be much later in the game? I remember getting this one pretty early...

[Gumpo]

Originally posted by Katie:

So they changed the Bomb summon to be much later in the game? I remember getting this one pretty early...

Sort of. Its a change that was made a long time ago and I think all the remakes have stuck to it. It was only the original release on SNES where they were easy to find... And though they claim these games are based on the originals, it seems more like they are based on the GBA remakes minus the bonus content.

[Trappski]

Originally posted by zebulous_newt:

one of the bomb monsters on the moon blows up all enemies on screen if you hit it with lightning. I can't remember which one it is. It is a really great way to spend 5 mp, and if it happens to be the Dark Grenade it should speed things up for you.

Yep it's the Dark Grenade that "counters" with Chain Reaction and blows up all the enemy party.

If you wan to save your MP just have Rydia use a Thunder Rod instead.

[Falcus]

I may need to do that eventually but for now I'm farming them outside of the crystal palace. Mostly because it's quick to enter for MP plus because there's an okay spawn rate on them here. Much better than the eastern path for me personally.
But I've decided that for these last two summons (bomb and cockatrice) that I'm going to just hotkey it because screw doing it any other way.

[I Kill Friendlies]

The best place is the left lunar path especially if you don't want to use magic because in the right one they show up with those dark puddings.

[Vitaminsmore]

I got fortunate then. It still took a while as the bombs wouldn't show up, but 20 balloons & 42 grey bombs before it dropped. It dropped on a fight with three grey bombs and one Worm for me.

[The Asciiman]

I swear that the drop rates of all of these secret summons must have been increased. It took me all of about an hour to get all four. I got this bomb one after ten minutes of wandering. Almost none of that time was dedicated in trying to farm it.

These have to have been improved since then.

[Dimlhugion]

Originally posted by The Asciiman:

I swear that the drop rates of all of these secret summons must have been increased. It took me all of about an hour to get all four. I got this bomb one after ten minutes of wandering. Almost none of that time was dedicated in trying to farm it.

These have to have been improved since then.

If only there were some sort of documentation on these kinds of things...