BRING US NORMAL MODE (NES, PS1) ://////

[Blackened Halo]

Why do you, Square, only want to satisfy weak players who do not want any challenges, but completely ignore us hardcore fans remembering how difficult and satisfying those games were back in the day? I would not mind it at all if there was also an option to play Final Fantasy II as it was intended, meaning the NES version, or PS1 version playing on normal mode.

This version is based on the easy mode present in Final Fantasy Origins and GBA and there is no way how to play it as it was intended to play.

Do you remember when players were laughing when Square released the Easy Type of Final Fantasy 4 for dumb players? Now Square is being appreciated for it regarding Pixel Remaster. What an age of laziness and stupidity....

[Pack 4 Potatoes]

Hopefully, there is enough outrage for them to release an update. What they did graphically and musically is amazing. Sad to see them water down the gameplay.

[Blackened Halo]

Originally posted by gone:

I literally speak for 500,000 hardcore fans across the world, and we all say you probably meant to type "me" instead of "us"

you cannot call yourself a hardcore fan when you are satisfied with such a degraded dificulty. It is like Final Fantasy 2 Easy-Type.

[Blackened Halo]

Originally posted by Stop Potato Hate:

Hopefully, there is enough outrage for them to release an update. What they did graphically and musically is amazing. Sad to see them water down the gameplay.

yeah, graphics-wise is very nic and music-wise is basically perfect, but what a same that they lowered the original difficulty

[Blackened Halo]

Originally posted by Stop Potato Hate:

Hopefully, there is enough outrage for them to release an update. What they did graphically and musically is amazing. Sad to see them water down the gameplay.

No there will not be outrage enough, because these "fans" here are as expected satisfied with this half-baked product....

ah, where are the times like those when Chrono Trigger was released on Steam and we all forced Square to fix it completely!!

[tayclark42]

agreed tbh i cant even play ff1-3 with how easy they are

[Blackened Halo]

Originally posted by tayclark42:

agreed tbh i cant even play ff1-3 with how easy they are

exactly :/ this is a disgrace :/ these are just not Final Fantasy, Final Fantasy II and Final Fantasy III ...players here are blind by Square´s hype, as they just cannot see that these are not those games

[Melodia]

In this thread: True Gamers™️

[HexGramarye]

You know what? If you like the original version, that's fine. I hope they do a difficulty patch or a difficulty mod comes out. That said, you don't get to call players who like to play games differently "weak." FF2 is a divisive game already, and not wanting to participate in what many view as flawed mechanics doesn't mean they don't like satisfying, challenging difficulty curves.
It's not about difficulty, then, and to presume this is smokescreen. And I mean, come on, when has any Final Fantasy other than maybe 4 on DS been hard? FF2 is not hard, no matter what version you play. In fact, it's quite easy once you learn how the weird, annoying mechanics work. Grindy is not hard, it's just a timesink. If you want hard, play Shin Megami Tensei. You could argue none of us can be called hardcore because we're playing Final Fantasy, really the most normie JRPG series on the market, in the first place. Or maybe we just shouldn't gatekeep people's preferences.

[Blackened Halo]

Originally posted by Melodia:

In this thread: True Gamers™️

the original version is harder and that matters, also it is more RPG, because you had to choose which role you wanted to play...since there is no stats degradation, you are not playing any roles anymore, because you are everything

I am not calling you "non-hardcore fans" because you like Final Fantasy but those who welcome this difficulty degradation just cannot call themseves hardcore FF fans

[Sephiroth]

all this yet when ever the bonus dungeons were confirmed gone people were saying i guess the definitive versions are gba for 5 and 6 and psp for the others.
such hypocrites lol

[HexGramarye]

The stat degradation system doesn't make the game harder, unless you're trying to circumvent the game by multiclassing. If you play by the game's rules because, honestly, the game didn't give you the choice, the difficulty was comparable. The difference is that you have to grind more, and you don't get the freedom to build characters how you want.
I did my time. I beat the NES FF2. Without dying. I also had to grind and navigate through the awful menus every turn to level up spells. If I ever wanted Firion to cast Life on large groups of undead that were *always* showing up, I'd have to into the menus and unequip his weapon and shield every. other. turn.
Meanwhile, in the ports I always go in underleveled -- I don't spec my characters into everything; I do go with fun hybrid builds impossible in the NES version, though -- and I got a similar difficulty curve without all the pain.

[Blackened Halo]

Originally posted by Sephiroth:

all this yet when ever the bonus dungeons were confirmed gone people were saying i guess the definitive versions are gba for 5 and 6 and psp for the others.
such hypocrites lol

I never said this because I knew them, all those who claimed that PSP versions were definitive definitely never played them and they only complained because they had heard some content was missing

in reality, the PSP versions are worst, they look like flashy mobile games and they are the easiest versions

[Blackened Halo]

Originally posted by Sir Gramarye:

The stat degradation system doesn't make the game harder, unless you're trying to circumvent the game by multiclassing. If you play by the game's rules because, honestly, the game didn't give you the choice, the difficulty was comparable. The difference is that you have to grind more, and you don't get the freedom to build characters how you want.
I did my time. I beat the NES FF2. Without dying. I also had to grind and navigate through the awful menus every turn to level up spells. If I ever wanted Firion to cast Life on large groups of undead that were *always* showing up, I'd have to into the menus and unequip his weapon and shield every. other. turn.
Meanwhile, in the ports I always go in underleveled, and I got a similar difficulty curve without all the pain.

you can easily level up everything in this version without any penalisation = easier

[HexGramarye]

I think you're mixing up genuine difficulty with time spent grinding.

[Blackened Halo]

Originally posted by Sir Gramarye:

I think you're mixing up genuine difficulty with time spent grinding.

nope, you can be a black mage, a warrior, a white mage at once and nothing happens, so do not tell me that this is not about difficulty, got it?