Warmech

[RatiugSon]

Hi. Any way to spawn it faster? I loved the game and i just need that to get my 100% bestiary chase. Been trying for more than 3h.

Update: I did it. Thanks for all support peoples!!!

[Lonetac]

set your team to flee and auto flee every battle until you get him is the fastest way. can still take hours but if you fight every fight it takes twice as long.

[_Mocking_Bird_]

Use cheat engine to increase game speed, that how i did as it took a long time to encouter one.

[RatiugSon]

Worked for +2h and it spawned. Thanks guys!!

[Concerto]

Originally posted by _Mocking_Bird_:

Use cheat engine to increase game speed, that how i did as it took a long time to encouter one.

I can't find one thats not behind a pay wall or trojan.

[niknum]

Originally posted by Abolish the Penny:

- Warmech's encounter rate is 1/64 but the zone in which you encounter it is not the entire bridge map but rather a smaller portion of the map

I'm going to lean towards this. I slowly beat the game in 12 hours, then spent 5 on Warmech. We should screenshot the exact places on the bridge where he spawned. I know mine was first 3rd closer towards the entrance.

[mOnocularJohn]

I wound up running around for 20 mins and finding out this guy just destroys 3 Knights and a White Wizard.. Still got credit, though, since I kept my WW alive long enough for it to flee.

I was reading a walkthrough trying to find it and it said something like "hard hits to single target, kill it before it casts Nuke". All it did when I fought it was NukeNukeNukeNukeNukeNukeNukeNuke every round from the start.

[Koby]

Had over 90 encounters, never ran into him, finally just gave up.

[RatiugSon]

Originally posted by Koby:

Had over 90 encounters, never ran into him, finally just gave up.

I did found him while i was watching peoples on twitch.tv. Try to do another thing while you try to spawn this thing.

[Zunnoab #931]

Originally posted by Abolish the Penny:

It seems unlikely that Warmech is still using the original encounter rate states in this version. I have spoken to a number of people who have 100%ed the game and the distribution of time spent grinding does not match what it would be at either 3/64 or 1/64.

Reasonable possibilities imo:

- Warmech's encounter rate is below 1/64
- Warmech's encounter rate is 1/64 but the zone in which you encounter it is not the entire bridge map but rather a smaller portion of the map
- Everyone I've talked to has incredibly bad luck and also everyone in this thread has incredibly bad luck.

If you assume a 1/64 encounter rate, then the probability of not fighting Warmech for 100 battles is 20%; the probability of not fighting Warmech for 200 battles is 4%; the probability of not fighting him for 300 battles is 0.8%. My guess is that there's around 2-3 battles per minute while grinding. but I haven't timed it.

I think I spent about 2-2:30 of my total playtime trying to get Warmech and Iron Golem to spawn, compared to about 8:00 for the entire rest of the game and all other content.

You need an incredibly large sample size to make any accurate guess, likely far more than most people put in before they get Warmech. I was insanely lucky and got it within minutes, probably less than 10-15 encounters in the area. That does not, of course, mean that he's not super rare. I just got good luck while others had worse luck.

[_Mocking_Bird_]

Originally posted by Concerto:

Originally posted by _Mocking_Bird_:

Use cheat engine to increase game speed, that how i did as it took a long time to encouter one.

I can't find one thats not behind a pay wall or trojan.

go to google and search for cheat engine, its free to use. you are looking up other shady stuff thats why they are behind a paywall.

[Random]

Spent around 6 hours for 2 Warmechs to spawn in attempt for the Genji Armor.

[Gnarl]

I fought him at 45 minutes in, basically the tile where the boss was, maybe one above.

[MadDawg2552]

I hate to be "that guy", but I fought Warmech twice in 30 minutes. I got wiped the first fight and I was determined to beat it, so I walked around until it appeared again. Got it the second time.

There's no trick or RNG maniuplation. Just stay on the bridge.

[ItsMeJames]

When trying to find Warmech I set three party members to flee, and the member with the highest intelligence to use the healing staff for all those quick shots the enemies get in before you run away. Just turn auto on as you enter each fight that is not against Warmech.

I got him after 20-30 minutes, you're able to get through a ton of fights very fast this way, definitely not much sense in killing all the guys.

I was able to beat him at level 44. No genji armour though, wonder if its in this one?

Chaos was pretty tough, definitely harder than Warmech. Had to fight Chaos a second time to beat him (level 49). Man those end credits scrolled forever.

Anybody find anything new to do once you reload after completion?

[knight, master, white wizard, black wizard]

[Abolish the Penny]

Originally posted by Zunnoab #931:

Originally posted by Abolish the Penny:

It seems unlikely that Warmech is still using the original encounter rate states in this version. I have spoken to a number of people who have 100%ed the game and the distribution of time spent grinding does not match what it would be at either 3/64 or 1/64.

Reasonable possibilities imo:

- Warmech's encounter rate is below 1/64
- Warmech's encounter rate is 1/64 but the zone in which you encounter it is not the entire bridge map but rather a smaller portion of the map
- Everyone I've talked to has incredibly bad luck and also everyone in this thread has incredibly bad luck.

If you assume a 1/64 encounter rate, then the probability of not fighting Warmech for 100 battles is 20%; the probability of not fighting Warmech for 200 battles is 4%; the probability of not fighting him for 300 battles is 0.8%. My guess is that there's around 2-3 battles per minute while grinding. but I haven't timed it.

I think I spent about 2-2:30 of my total playtime trying to get Warmech and Iron Golem to spawn, compared to about 8:00 for the entire rest of the game and all other content.

You need an incredibly large sample size to make any accurate guess, likely far more than most people put in before they get Warmech. I was insanely lucky and got it within minutes, probably less than 10-15 encounters in the area. That does not, of course, mean that he's not super rare. I just got good luck while others had worse luck.

Sample size is not the issue (even two or three players reporting 2+ hour wait times would be enough to establish statistical incompatibility of the data with the results); although non-random sample selection in the complaining is.

Anyway it's all moot, I went into the game's data files and data mined the actual answer.

WarMech's encounter rate is 1 in 100.

The exact encounter table for the map is:

      id name               value
   <dbl> <chr>              <dbl>
 1    33 monster_set1         593
 2    33 monster_set1_rate     80
 3    33 monster_set2         247
 4    33 monster_set2_rate     80
 5    33 monster_set3         249
 6    33 monster_set3_rate     90
 7    33 monster_set4         549
 8    33 monster_set4_rate     30
 9    33 monster_set5         550
10    33 monster_set5_rate     30
11    33 monster_set6         485
12    33 monster_set6_rate     80
13    33 monster_set7         659
14    33 monster_set7_rate     80
15    33 monster_set8         660
16    33 monster_set8_rate     90
17    33 monster_set9         243
18    33 monster_set9_rate     90
19    33 monster_set10        244
20    33 monster_set10_rate    90
21    33 monster_set11        245
22    33 monster_set11_rate    90
23    33 monster_set12        671
24    33 monster_set12_rate    80
25    33 monster_set13        672
26    33 monster_set13_rate    80
27    33 monster_set14        261
28    33 monster_set14_rate    10

So these are the 14 possible encounters that take place in encounter set 33 (the bridge leading to Tiamat). Warmech is in enemy pack 261, so his encounter rate is 10. The sum of all the other encounter rates is 990, plus Warmech's 10, so that's 10/1000 = 1 in 100.