red mage weeker??????

[Asvolies]

is this just mee or is the red mage weaker then before?

the last vr of ff i played was the psp ver and i remember rdm being a bit stronger



or is it just me?

[Vambran]

Without his Ultimate weapons from the Bonus content he is subpar.

In this version he excels in giving the player a easier early game. Being the only (good) Auto attacker that has access to healing spells. Regular fights , Attack stuff with your sword. After combat heal the party. In boss fights , buff the best DPS with haste / temper.

I would not bother with his damage spells. They rarely do more damage than your auto attack and your wasting your healing slots. Give him the mage staff or Gauntlets if you really want to use DPS magic on him but only if you dont also have a white mage or black mage since they do more damage with it.

[Asvolies]

yikes hah ty

guess im to used too gba and psp ver lol

ty

[Pack 4 Potatoes]

His spells did more damage in older versions. Now spell damage is more dependent on the INT stat.

[Vambran]

Originally posted by Dargsy:

Originally posted by Vambran:

Without his Ultimate weapons from the Bonus content he is subpar.

In this version he excels in giving the player a easier early game. Being the only (good) Auto attacker that has access to healing spells. Regular fights , Attack stuff with your sword. After combat heal the party. In boss fights , buff the best DPS with haste / temper.

I would not bother with his damage spells. They rarely do more damage than your auto attack and your wasting your healing slots. Give him the mage staff or Gauntlets if you really want to use DPS magic on him but only if you dont also have a white mage or black mage since they do more damage with it.

Are you sure about that? My party had a non magic using red mage and he was regularly one shotting enemies. And when it came to bosses I had him spend a couple turns using giants gloves on himself and he was fine holding his own.

Yeah his auto attack is stronger than his best magic. And mage staff does about the same damage as his best spell so your better off just loading him up with heals and buffs.

If he is your only Melee DPS he can get the job done being buffed him self. But will always be weaker than a Knight / Ninja / Black Belt buffed.

[DaMan]

Melee seems ok. Offensive spells and item usage I can tell a big difference.

[Dadalama]

basically, at the end of the game he's a buffer that isn't useless in combat.

[ztdk]

I think his utility in buffs and ability to use melee attack and some of the stronger swords make rdm a pretty good character throughout. Though what exact role he plays shifts from helping getting through the dungeon, and being less useful during the bosses, to helping with bosses and being less useful in the dungeon.

Still with a masa or sun sword and the extra healing and buffs I'd say he pulls his weight.

[Topaz Light]

The Red Mage has always been a jack-of-all-trades, but a master of none. I haven't crunched the numbers to see exactly how the Red Mage is balanced in the Pixel Remaster compared to previous versions, but they've felt about the same to me during my playthrough. The weak HP, at least, isn't new, and Red Mages have had weaker spell power than Black and White Mages ever since the Intelligence bug was fixed several versions ago.

[Atomic Kid]

Hes basically the best early game char in the game but falls off midgame but even after falling off his physical attack is still decent enough to kill 1 enemy at a time (most other chars overkill which results in the same thing lol) but in boss fights is where he falls off but he can still do the buff bot role which is fine as others will kill the boss for you. He's fine where he is atm he was busted in the original nes ver for sure he deserved a nerf but even with that he still is decent.

He no longer makes white and black mage useless and no longer outclasses ninja, hes much more balanced now and not useless at the end of the game, he may no longer be your highest dps or best healer but he at least contributes. His awful hp does ensure hes hiding in the back with the black mage and monk who dont want to get hit. Also, he wont usually 1 shot mobs with the aga level spells most of the time so usually its a waste of time to use those unless you have another mage using spells and then he can finish off but if hes your only caster then the attack magic is usually a waste of money and slots and better on black mage or just using items with spells attached.

[Asvolies]

i think im just too used to prev vers cus you can use spells like fira and firaga on 1 monster or the entere group

ware in this ver is only the group