Some news about NG+ (from discord) *Big news*

[Bobby Crocoshoes]

Devs gave us some good news:

https://discord.com/channels/541778372997677056/541778372997677058/1101696345728897024

*Okay look let me give you guys the gist of it
Of the announcement
So we’re doing two things related to NG+, one is NG+ in a traditional way the other is what’s called NGR (new game rebirth) < that’s the original expansion of content and an expansion of mechanics. Now a few advancements on our end made us flip the priority because the NG+ update comes with a lot of overhauls and expansions for the core game (and which is also very important). Overhauls of areas, expansions to areas, more weapons (which we will run a poll on and let the players decide which weapons to add this time around - I think we have time for three new weapons for that, players will choose the types)*

*And also a HUGE addition to all of that which will remain under wraps
There will be giant mechanics expansions with the next update and it will all make sense once we showcase it with a short trailer
We’re also adding one new enemy to that*


UPDATE: 30.04.2023 *NEW MESSAGE FROM DEV*
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857624975803809823/1102128945106788352/Capture_decran_2023-04-30_a_09.03.22.png

https://discord.com/channels/541778372997677056/541788964860723215/1102020304307507242

@everyone
So - lost power last night as I was writing the announcement teehee. It's back now!
As you might know we've been hard at work on 2 major updates to the game which are not patches, but actual content improvements and expansions. One of them was the NG+ we were mentioning. So I just want to clarify that we're pivoting slightly to embrace some wonderfully ambitious changes that we're sure will be extremely exciting for the community. I'm just going to summarize loosely what to expect from these two updates.

Update 1: (End of May)
NG+ (in a more traditional form, where enemies are simply scaled higher than you)
Content improvements (I'm combing through the world map and upgrading areas that were lacking and adding some more content to beef up the exploration experience even more)
More Weapons (We want to add some new weapons to the game, we'll probably run this through both this and patreon community and weigh them accordingly to get an idea for which weapons types you'd most like to see added - realistically 3 new weapons)
A new Enemy that Patreon users have seen 🙂
More Armor sets and capes (realistically 2 new armor sets and 2 new capes)
Animation overhauls and general overhauls across the board
Improved AI
Huge Mystery Feature in Experimental form 1
Huge Mystery Feature in Experimental form 2

^ This will influence the core game and make it a more robust and interesting experience, we would like to help boost the reviews and ensure that newcomers have an easier time enjoying the game as much as you guys have here, hence the focus on the core game itself before moving to make the new NG+ of fresh content (which is like a DLC but also part of the core)

Update 2: (End of June, beginning of July)
NGR (New Game Rebirth), all new map and narrative content, with a changed gameplay loop to make it an extremely hardcore endgame experience.
And more of everything outlined above (weapons, armors, enemies, bosses etc) (Ran out of words, more in next message)

[VonRaven 666]

oh my god this just keeps getting better!!

[storm11300]

Thanks for all the work what you make on the game ;)
Really wait to see the next update ^^

[Bankai9212]

I'm guessing once thats out they'll release it on Gog?

[Agathocles69]

Originally posted by Agathocles69:

Originally posted by VonRaven 666:

oh my god this just keeps getting better!!

[Talos]

Originally posted by Bobby Crocoshoes:

*Okay look let me give you guys the gist of it

Thanks for the info - good to see some progress is being made on NG+. Had a few questions on some things that are unclear to me, maybe a translation issue if you can please clarify..

Originally posted by Bobby Crocoshoes:

two things related to NG+, one is NG+ in a traditional way the other is what’s called NGR (new game rebirth) < that’s the original expansion of content and an expansion of mechanics. Now a few advancements on our end made us flip the priority because the NG+ update comes with a lot of overhauls and expansions for the core game (and which is also very important).

1. So you said priority was flipped...which was flipped to the front? traditional NG+ will be coming out first? or NGR?
2. Which one has expansion of content and new mechanics? at first it seems like NGR but then later you say NG+ comes with lots of overhauls and expansions? they both have new things added?

Originally posted by Bobby Crocoshoes:

*And also a HUGE addition to all of that which will remain under wraps
There will be giant mechanics expansions with the next update and it will all make sense once we showcase it with a short trailer
We’re also adding one new enemy to that*

Does "giant mechanics expansions" say addition to how GIANT type enemies work? or does it say a BIG update and changes to overall mechanics of the whole entire game systems? I have faith in the devs, but I hope they don't do a complete overhaul and change of the main game systems and completely change how the base game mechanics are, because I think the core systems are pretty cool and well done as they are now with some nice unique aspects currently. Some new minor touches could be cool, or things that add a little depth to the system could be nice (such as incorporating more climbing mechanics or adding new abilities from the locked ones etc) - but on the other hand as a different example we all have seen plenty of cases of many games in the past that try to totally rework things with a good base game system and end up ruining something good in the process. Please if you can explain what "giant mechanics expansions" means.

Thanks again for your updates and info Bobby

[Altotas]

I find it funny that the devs were hyping up the upcoming NG+ as something exceptionally different from other games and thus needing more time in the oven, only to release plain "traditional" NG+ after two and a half months. Such a simple plain "enemies are scaled higher than you and have more HP" NG+ should've been part of the release version or added in the first two-three weeks after, at best.

[Bobby Crocoshoes]

@Talos: they made something official this morning*
@Altotas: now the hype is huge and i hope they gonna make something big.



UPDATE: 30.04.2023 *NEW MESSAGE FROM DEV*
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857624975803809823/1102128945106788352/Capture_decran_2023-04-30_a_09.03.22.png

https://discord.com/channels/541778372997677056/541788964860723215/1102020304307507242

@everyone
So - lost power last night as I was writing the announcement teehee. It's back now!
As you might know we've been hard at work on 2 major updates to the game which are not patches, but actual content improvements and expansions. One of them was the NG+ we were mentioning. So I just want to clarify that we're pivoting slightly to embrace some wonderfully ambitious changes that we're sure will be extremely exciting for the community. I'm just going to summarize loosely what to expect from these two updates.

Update 1: (End of May)
NG+ (in a more traditional form, where enemies are simply scaled higher than you)
Content improvements (I'm combing through the world map and upgrading areas that were lacking and adding some more content to beef up the exploration experience even more)
More Weapons (We want to add some new weapons to the game, we'll probably run this through both this and patreon community and weigh them accordingly to get an idea for which weapons types you'd most like to see added - realistically 3 new weapons)
A new Enemy that Patreon users have seen 🙂
More Armor sets and capes (realistically 2 new armor sets and 2 new capes)
Animation overhauls and general overhauls across the board
Improved AI
Huge Mystery Feature in Experimental form 1
Huge Mystery Feature in Experimental form 2

^ This will influence the core game and make it a more robust and interesting experience, we would like to help boost the reviews and ensure that newcomers have an easier time enjoying the game as much as you guys have here, hence the focus on the core game itself before moving to make the new NG+ of fresh content (which is like a DLC but also part of the core)

Update 2: (End of June, beginning of July)
NGR (New Game Rebirth), all new map and narrative content, with a changed gameplay loop to make it an extremely hardcore endgame experience.
And more of everything outlined above (weapons, armors, enemies, bosses etc) (Ran out of words, more in next message)

[Shylaar]

Alright, I guess I'll wait for that second update to get it then.

[amrulez]

I'm looking forward to all of this. I still didn't even start my own game but I play at my friends house all of the time with his PC (much more powerful than my laptop)

[Outsider]

Literally No Man's Sky situation.
Why rush out half-finished game, if you could realize your ambitions just a few months later?

[Bankai9212]

Originally posted by Outsider:

Literally No Man's Sky situation.
Why rush out half-finished game, if you could realize your ambitions just a few months later?

Because they self published, I can only imagine the nightmare of having to push back the date which for a 3 man team means one person is doing all of it. Also no man sky is essentially like any game that gets continued support.

[Bankai9212]

Originally posted by Bobby Crocoshoes:

@Talos: they made something official this morning*
@Altotas: now the hype is huge and i hope they gonna make something big.



UPDATE: 30.04.2023 *NEW MESSAGE FROM DEV*
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857624975803809823/1102128945106788352/Capture_decran_2023-04-30_a_09.03.22.png

https://discord.com/channels/541778372997677056/541788964860723215/1102020304307507242

@everyone
So - lost power last night as I was writing the announcement teehee. It's back now!
As you might know we've been hard at work on 2 major updates to the game which are not patches, but actual content improvements and expansions. One of them was the NG+ we were mentioning. So I just want to clarify that we're pivoting slightly to embrace some wonderfully ambitious changes that we're sure will be extremely exciting for the community. I'm just going to summarize loosely what to expect from these two updates.

Update 1: (End of May)
NG+ (in a more traditional form, where enemies are simply scaled higher than you)
Content improvements (I'm combing through the world map and upgrading areas that were lacking and adding some more content to beef up the exploration experience even more)
More Weapons (We want to add some new weapons to the game, we'll probably run this through both this and patreon community and weigh them accordingly to get an idea for which weapons types you'd most like to see added - realistically 3 new weapons)
A new Enemy that Patreon users have seen 🙂
More Armor sets and capes (realistically 2 new armor sets and 2 new capes)
Animation overhauls and general overhauls across the board
Improved AI
Huge Mystery Feature in Experimental form 1
Huge Mystery Feature in Experimental form 2

^ This will influence the core game and make it a more robust and interesting experience, we would like to help boost the reviews and ensure that newcomers have an easier time enjoying the game as much as you guys have here, hence the focus on the core game itself before moving to make the new NG+ of fresh content (which is like a DLC but also part of the core)

Update 2: (End of June, beginning of July)
NGR (New Game Rebirth), all new map and narrative content, with a changed gameplay loop to make it an extremely hardcore endgame experience.
And more of everything outlined above (weapons, armors, enemies, bosses etc) (Ran out of words, more in next message)

So gog release at the end of May or in July?

[Bobby Crocoshoes]

about GOG (answer from Devs):

We’re still in their support system, and they said they relegated us to a third party solution or smth
Not exactly sure but we’ll need to reignite those conversations especially after the next update

[Bankai9212]

More or less what I figured, thanks for the update.

[Squamousness]

will the content expansions and stuff be available for the first playthrough as well? If areas are getting expanded and all that it seems like it'd be better to have it available the first go-around otherwise you'd have to play the whole game just to get to the improved map and additional narrative.