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Mike 2023年3月17日 20時08分 
wentzelitis の投稿を引用:
MOEL の投稿を引用:

Saying "caught with stolen assets" is calling someone a thief. But i'm guessing, you don't agree.

it literally isn't. more making up things and lies to fit narratives. i also never said i wouldn't be happy until the game is removed from steam. not sure why you all feel you need to make things up.

the game is unfinished and should be in early access. being caught with stolen assets is further evidence of this and strengthens the first point, along with being buggy, janky, etc. the fact that they've needed to push out so many patches and fixes so quick also strengthens this point, and they have a while to go. this all strengthens the opinion of "don't buy this game"

I wonder do you put all of this hyper focused criticism to all of the games your interested in or just the ones caught up in drama?

I've played AAA games that are "jankier" then this game, and some of the most beloved RPGs are in fact "janky" yet people highly enjoy them (Gothic 1-2, Eldersrolls 3-5, Fallout 3-NV, Witcher 1-3, Demon/Dark Souls 1, Stalker, VTM: Bloodlines,...etc.)

What you find Janky others will not so your points are not really "facts" its your opinion.
MOEL の投稿を引用:
Round and round we go. Nobody knows where we will go.
i mean the fact that they were caught with stolen assets can't be changed. so i'm not sure why so many people are trying to fight that fact.
Mike の投稿を引用:
wentzelitis の投稿を引用:

it literally isn't. more making up things and lies to fit narratives. i also never said i wouldn't be happy until the game is removed from steam. not sure why you all feel you need to make things up.

the game is unfinished and should be in early access. being caught with stolen assets is further evidence of this and strengthens the first point, along with being buggy, janky, etc. the fact that they've needed to push out so many patches and fixes so quick also strengthens this point, and they have a while to go. this all strengthens the opinion of "don't buy this game"

I wonder do you put all of this hyper focused criticism to all of the games your interested in or just the ones caught up in drama?

I've played AAA games that are "jankier" then this game, and some of the most beloved RPGs are in fact "janky" yet people highly enjoy them (Gothic 1-2, Eldersrolls 3-5, Fallout 3-NV, Witcher 1-3, Demon/Dark Souls 1, Stalker, VTM: Bloodlines,...etc.)

What you find Janky others will not so your points are not really "facts" its your opinion.

yes i have criticism when games are unfinished and rushed to release. this is a common problem. i do not think they are worth buying until fixed. i never said that was a fact. i even used the word opinion. you are a habitual liar. the only fact i claimed was that the devs were caught with stolen assets. again, this is fact.
Go troll someone else already. You're not worth a response.
MOEL の投稿を引用:
Go troll someone else already. You're not worth a response.

Yah just block em like I did.
Mike 2023年3月17日 20時28分 
NewYears1978 の投稿を引用:
MOEL の投稿を引用:
Go troll someone else already. You're not worth a response.

Yah just block em like I did.

Ehh I usually like playing with the haters/trolls because half of them can never defend any of their points without name calling or ad hominem attacks.

Some people just play dumb when in reality they just want to stir up something.
最近の変更はMikeが行いました; 2023年3月17日 20時28分
Mike の投稿を引用:
NewYears1978 の投稿を引用:

Yah just block em like I did.

Ehh I usually like playing with the haters/trolls because half of them can never defend any of their points without name calling or ad hominem attacks.

Some people just play dumb when in reality they just want to stir up something.

i am not a troll all i did was state a fact, and i have not name called, but you 3 all did. you could have left my initial message alone but you are the ones that replied to stir up drama (trolling) because you did not like the fact presented. facts do not need to be defended, they are facts. i am still waiting for your point by the way, as none has been made.. only lies. i even invited you to message me privately but you insisted on replying here repeatedly.
最近の変更はwentzelitisが行いました; 2023年3月17日 20時43分
Mike の投稿を引用:
NewYears1978 の投稿を引用:

Yah just block em like I did.

Ehh I usually like playing with the haters/trolls because half of them can never defend any of their points without name calling or ad hominem attacks.

Some people just play dumb when in reality they just want to stir up something.

Lol, valid.
Mike 2023年3月17日 21時01分 
wentzelitis の投稿を引用:

i am not a troll all i did was state a fact, and i have not name called, but you 3 all did. you could have left my initial message alone but you are the ones that replied to stir up drama (trolling) because you did not like the fact presented. facts do not need to be defended, they are facts. i am still waiting for your point by the way, as none has been made.. only lies. i even invited you to message me privately but you insisted on replying here repeatedly.

Yeah thats all you seem to be able to do is "state a fact". A "fact" that has been proven false given the recent updates from the devs on the topic of the animations/assets (you never address this).

You stating that same old "fact" is equivalent to me reading and believing some random online article that was "true" when it was released, but years later was been proven incorrect or no longer valid. Your getting call out because your "facts" seem to start and stop at the release of the game, and seem to gloss over the updates, and devs announces/explanation regarding the issue.

My POINT has always been that you keep stating this "fact" when it has already been rectified and proved not completely true by more recent developments.

This will be my last serious non jokey post for you because you sound like a broken record that is scratched and stuck repeating the same thing.
Mike の投稿を引用:
wentzelitis の投稿を引用:

i am not a troll all i did was state a fact, and i have not name called, but you 3 all did. you could have left my initial message alone but you are the ones that replied to stir up drama (trolling) because you did not like the fact presented. facts do not need to be defended, they are facts. i am still waiting for your point by the way, as none has been made.. only lies. i even invited you to message me privately but you insisted on replying here repeatedly.

Yeah thats all you seem to be able to do is "state a fact". A "fact" that has been proven false given the recent updates from the devs on the topic of the animations/assets (you never address this).

You stating that same old "fact" is equivalent to me reading and believing some random online article that was "true" when it was released, but years later was been proven incorrect or no longer valid. Your getting call out because your "facts" seem to start and stop at the release of the game, and seem to gloss over the updates, and devs announces/explanation regarding the issue.

My POINT has always been that you keep stating this "fact" when it has already been rectified and proved not completely true by more recent developments.

This will be my last serious non jokey post for you because you sound like a broken record that is scratched and stuck repeating the same thing.

the devs were caught using stolen assets. this is a fact. deal with it. maybe if they didn't release an unfinished game they could have sorted this out before they had people pay to beta test for them.
最近の変更はwentzelitisが行いました; 2023年3月17日 21時26分
Goblin 2023年3月18日 1時02分 
wentzelitis の投稿を引用:
the devs were caught using stolen assets. this is a fact. deal with it. maybe if they didn't release an unfinished game they could have sorted this out before they had people pay to beta test for them.
You feel like you're making a naturally factual point, but semantically aren't thanks to how the English language works. If you buy a stolen car from a car dealership you aren't caught with a stolen car, you are found to have a stolen car. The dealership is caught selling stolen cars.

The verb catch only applies when, and thus implies, doing something wrong. Accusing someone of a harmful intent, and thus a crime, requires proof or it is a libelous statement. Did I just "catch" you breaking libel laws, or did I merely accuse you of such and are you innocent until proven guilty by a court of law? Reality is the devs won't sue you over it either way, so it doesn't matter, just like the devs haven't been sued by Fromsoft and likely never will be. Neither of you have been "caught" doing any wrong. Next time try using the verb "found using" instead of "caught using" and you can actually be all smug and feel superior over being technically correct, unlike now.
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wentzelitis の投稿を引用:
the devs were caught using stolen assets. this is a fact. deal with it. maybe if they didn't release an unfinished game they could have sorted this out before they had people pay to beta test for them.
You feel like you're making a naturally factual point, but semantically aren't thanks to how the English language works. If you buy a stolen car from a car dealership you aren't caught with a stolen car, you are found to have a stolen car. The dealership is caught selling stolen cars.

The verb catch only applies when, and thus implies, doing something wrong. Accusing someone of a harmful intent, and thus a crime, requires proof or it is a libelous statement. Did I just "catch" you breaking libel laws, or did I merely accuse you of such and are you innocent until proven guilty by a court of law? Reality is the devs won't sue you over it either way, so it doesn't matter, just like the devs haven't been sued by Fromsoft and likely never will be. Neither of you have been "caught" doing any wrong. Next time try using the verb "found using" instead of "caught using" and you can actually be all smug and feel superior over being technically correct, unlike now.

Epic Mic Drop moment (except wentzelitis will still reply thinking they have something valid to say, which they do not.)
最近の変更はNewYears1978が行いました; 2023年3月18日 13時54分
Goblin の投稿を引用:
wentzelitis の投稿を引用:
the devs were caught using stolen assets. this is a fact. deal with it. maybe if they didn't release an unfinished game they could have sorted this out before they had people pay to beta test for them.
You feel like you're making a naturally factual point, but semantically aren't thanks to how the English language works. If you buy a stolen car from a car dealership you aren't caught with a stolen car, you are found to have a stolen car. The dealership is caught selling stolen cars.

The verb catch only applies when, and thus implies, doing something wrong. Accusing someone of a harmful intent, and thus a crime, requires proof or it is a libelous statement. Did I just "catch" you breaking libel laws, or did I merely accuse you of such and are you innocent until proven guilty by a court of law? Reality is the devs won't sue you over it either way, so it doesn't matter, just like the devs haven't been sued by Fromsoft and likely never will be. Neither of you have been "caught" doing any wrong. Next time try using the verb "found using" instead of "caught using" and you can actually be all smug and feel superior over being technically correct, unlike now.

you are still caught with a stolen car. sorry. that's the facts. it looks bad, and there's no way around that. being caught with something = looks bad/unfortunate/unexpected, caught in traffic, etc. does not necessarily mean guilty (looks like you need to educate yourself on the english language) if it didn't look bad, they wouldn't be "catching" so much flack. you can be caught with something without being guilty, but i also never said they were innocent. i simply stated a fact and left it at that, but then white knights made things up to fit their narrative and ran with it. reality is most people will probably never know the truth. were they aware the animations were stolen and still released them anyway? i say the odds are favorable that's actually the case, but i can't say for sure. most people don't accidentally buy something that's stolen, and have a suspicion at the least (why's it so cheap? why's it being sold in an alley?). none of that really matters. the fact is they were caught using stolen assets, and their game was rushed and unfinished. stolen assets is just one area that this presents itself. if they would have taken time to finish their game first, they could have possibly sorted this out before release and not had to act victims, replace assets (only after being forced to btw, and still proudly sold the game before they were fully removed)
最近の変更はwentzelitisが行いました; 2023年3月18日 13時54分
NewYears1978 の投稿を引用:
Goblin の投稿を引用:
You feel like you're making a naturally factual point, but semantically aren't thanks to how the English language works. If you buy a stolen car from a car dealership you aren't caught with a stolen car, you are found to have a stolen car. The dealership is caught selling stolen cars.

The verb catch only applies when, and thus implies, doing something wrong. Accusing someone of a harmful intent, and thus a crime, requires proof or it is a libelous statement. Did I just "catch" you breaking libel laws, or did I merely accuse you of such and are you innocent until proven guilty by a court of law? Reality is the devs won't sue you over it either way, so it doesn't matter, just like the devs haven't been sued by Fromsoft and likely never will be. Neither of you have been "caught" doing any wrong. Next time try using the verb "found using" instead of "caught using" and you can actually be all smug and feel superior over being technically correct, unlike now.

Epic Mic Drop moment (except wentzelitis will still reply thinking they have something valid to say, which they do not.)

nice edit immediately after i posted to fit my new post, showing you clearly didn't block me and keep obsessively waiting for my responses and continue lying . "caught" you :)
why'd i watch that troll bait? lame. anyways, games fun. i'm glad i bought it. they could re-use any animation from elden ring for all i care, cause i like that game too.
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