What is the endgame?

[folmelow]

So maybe someone can explain, as I don't have a lot of experience with this type of games. What exactly is the endgame here? I have played for 14.5 hours and I've already reached max level 30 on a character. Do I need to level up all other wayfinders to level 30 as well? It's strange that I haven't even reached the next area / biome yet I have reached max level. In other games (like Baldur's Gate 3 for example), you reach max level by the end of the game, so it makes sense... Here, I'm not sure what my next goal should be? Can anyone suggest something? Just doing expeditions and unlocking different skins, that's all? Or just follow the main quest line until I unlock all biomes?

[Cpaw]

Originally posted by folmelow:

So maybe someone can explain, as I don't have a lot of experience with this type of games. What exactly is the endgame here? I have played for 14.5 hours and I've already reached max level 30 on a character. Do I need to level up all other wayfinders to level 30 as well? It's strange that I haven't even reached the next area / biome yet I have reached max level. In other games (like Baldur's Gate 3 for example), you reach max level by the end of the game, so it makes sense... Here, I'm not sure what my next goal should be? Can anyone suggest something? Just doing expeditions and unlocking different skins, that's all? Or just follow the main quest line until I unlock all biomes?

Hello, "endgame" is what you make of it, most people grind untill they have everything that is to get, like outfits and all weapons and all the echos etc., some just grind untill they have the things they like and then they just try kill a few bosses and when they are tired of that, they move on to other games and come back later to try something different out or just leave it at that.
You can find most items here https://wayfinder.atma.gg/en/Style so there you can see what you like and dont like.
It is just about grinding and people who dont like that, move on after they are done with story.
Good luck and have fun.
(played only for 190ish hours so far)

[e N e L]

Theres no endgame this is just a 20 scam so they can recoup their costs. If they just too kthis year to fix the original game they would have sg, but no, now we have this slop full of freemium liveservice DNA and its a broken mess.
Sorry, if you bought it You literally been scammed, this isnt really a game just convincingly pretends to be one

[Skywalker]

"Endgame" is a thing for MMORPG, with daily events, seasons, raids, pvp or other challenges and such things.

In a single player/coop game like Wayfinder you come to a point where you have played most content through ... then you have to wait normally for a next DLC (which mostly last one year or so) ... meantime make a pause, play other games, and come back in some months.

[Metadigital]

Originally posted by e N e L:

Theres no endgame this is just a 20 scam so they can recoup their costs. If they just too kthis year to fix the original game they would have sg, but no, now we have this slop full of freemium liveservice DNA and its a broken mess.
Sorry, if you bought it You literally been scammed, this isnt really a game just convincingly pretends to be one

There's reason to be skeptical about the game industry, and capitalism more broadly, but one must remain within reason.

This take left reason behind quite a while ago and is just lazy pessimism.

[Unlucky Genius]

Originally posted by e N e L:

Theres no endgame this is just a 20 scam so they can recoup their costs. If they just too kthis year to fix the original game they would have sg, but no, now we have this slop full of freemium liveservice DNA and its a broken mess.
Sorry, if you bought it You literally been scammed, this isnt really a game just convincingly pretends to be one

The reason they changed direction from a live service MMO to a singleplayer/coop RPG is that Digital Extremes shut down their publishing wing, leaving Wayfinder without a publisher. Without a publisher Airship Syndicate were unable to support Wayfinder as a live service game, so they took what they had and retooled it into what we see now.

You can be unsatisfied with the game as it is now, but I think it's clear that the devs did their best given the situation. Most studios in a similar situation would simply scrap the game leaving everyone disappointed.

[Elveone]

I'm with Cpaw here - the endgame is what you want it to be. There is boss farming for armor sets, artifacts, accessories and echoes, there are repeatable quests and dungeon farming for cosmetic vendor and upgrade currencies and there is exploration and finding stuff laying around the world and solving puzzles. In the end you set your goals - do you want to experiment with builds, do you want to maximize your stats, do you want to play fashionfinder, do you want to make a nice arrangement in your apartment, do you want to explore every nook and cranny in the world? All is legitimate and all is optional.

[Metadigital]

Originally posted by Unlucky Genius:

You can be unsatisfied with the game as it is now, but I think it's clear that the devs did their best given the situation. Most studios in a similar situation would simply scrap the game leaving everyone disappointed.

As a game industry nerd, the game's history is the sole reason I bought it. It's so unusual to see a game shift from an MMO to a single player game; I had to see it for myself how the studio make that shift.

So far, after getting a character to level 30, I'm really enjoying the unique feel I'm getting. Wayfinder is loaded with the archaeological remains of a predatory microtransaction infested live service game, but repurposed as a more ethical experience at a single cheap price point. It hits all the dopamine and instant gratification mechanics without the constant grind or opening of wallet. It's a rare experience that I hope players appreciate, and with any luck people will find it and allow the studio to keep developing it if they're still passionate about it.

[BrokenG3ars]

Originally posted by e N e L:

Theres no endgame this is just a 20 scam so they can recoup their costs. If they just too kthis year to fix the original game they would have sg, but no, now we have this slop full of freemium liveservice DNA and its a broken mess.
Sorry, if you bought it You literally been scammed, this isnt really a game just convincingly pretends to be one

I know Airship pissed in your cheerios (clearly) but can you please stop spouting such senseless ridiculous BS?

[Taddy Mason]

Originally posted by folmelow:

So maybe someone can explain, as I don't have a lot of experience with this type of games. What exactly is the endgame here? I have played for 14.5 hours and I've already reached max level 30 on a character. Do I need to level up all other wayfinders to level 30 as well? It's strange that I haven't even reached the next area / biome yet I have reached max level. In other games (like Baldur's Gate 3 for example), you reach max level by the end of the game, so it makes sense... Here, I'm not sure what my next goal should be? Can anyone suggest something? Just doing expeditions and unlocking different skins, that's all? Or just follow the main quest line until I unlock all biomes?

max level just means no more ability points for that character. there are still echos, talents, and affinity. they all impact how strong your character is in addition to their max level being reached. did you get to wayfinder rank 30 and unlock all your talents? did you spend all your affinity points and unlock the perks you wanted? have you found a set of echos you like that fit with the gear you have equipped and are those echos being ranked up or already maxed out? all this stuff can potentially change how you approach combat or further augment a playstyle you already have going.

[Panda]

Hi! Something that may help is to make sure you have world scaling turned on so enemies stay consistent with your level and don't feel weak! You said you hadn't unlocked the next area, that means you probably haven't been doing the storyline? Obviously, it's possible to level up your character to max without doing the main quest if you just grind dungeons/hunts for XP. I also grinded 2 characters to lvl30 while still only having the Highlands unlocked. Did you just grind in the first area until you were lvl30 on one char too?

Just to let you know you can swap in and out between all characters on the same save file if you want without having to restart the campaign :) Some people don't know that!

Other things to do include
-Ascending characters (5 star)
-Ascending weapons (5 star)
-Ascending Echoes
-Collecting armor/cosmetics/echoes/etc
-Decorate your house!! :) (This is unlocked after progressing the story)
-Do the job boards to help out the NPCs for rewards (This is unlocked after progressing the story)
-Collect all memory fragments for all characters
-Level up all characters to 30 (Max abilities/affinity/talents)
-Unlocking all 100lvls of the 2 reward towers
-Do side quests to learn lore
-Beat the hidden World Boss

There's also apparently mythics available, but haven't gotten far enough yet to get any. Hope this helped some!

[Cpaw]

Also, rare loot like
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3356589946
And the mounts, dont forget that to farm

[Furyion]

for me when all chars maxed , Your house maxed in decor , includes all pets and mounts and every item and skin.All quests, side quests and owning all the items from all vendors completed.

[Laciel]

Originally posted by Metadigital:

Originally posted by Unlucky Genius:

You can be unsatisfied with the game as it is now, but I think it's clear that the devs did their best given the situation. Most studios in a similar situation would simply scrap the game leaving everyone disappointed.

As a game industry nerd, the game's history is the sole reason I bought it. It's so unusual to see a game shift from an MMO to a single player game; I had to see it for myself how the studio make that shift.

I am in a similar boat. Saw the game a while ago trough steam discovery queue and ignored it because at that point it was unfinished and i don't like free to play mmo games (*huge rant about pay 2 win and pay 4 convenience goes here*).

However after hearing their story and seeing how they changed directions after the whole publisher debacle changed my mind and i insta bought it with my friend. This game kinda reminds me of Kingdoms of Amalur which was supposed to be a MMO game as well but ended up being solo only ARPG. I really like this idea of single-player games with light feel of MMORPGs.

And of course i bought the supporter pack because i would like to see more of this game in the future. Considering how rare these are we need to support them as much as possible.