Best dmg type ?

[nobrien]

on the mainland i was quite happy with my trusty spears found a decent mid to high dmg with lower focus cost of alot of the others.

but now that i have hit the island after killing for a few hours im starting to wonder as 150 dmg is rendered down to 50-70 after NPCs buff armor for 10+ rounds all the time and 90% of the random encounters ive faced are all mobs with insane abilitys and huge health pools in the 3-5k more akin to boss fights on the mainland.

i bought the 17K high end spear b4 comming to island and managed to upgrade it twice with blood stones.

what are your guys findings on the island i am curious ?

[sdshadow]

I searched about this matter myself and at the mobile version blunt damage (maces) seems to be the best choice at endgame.

No clue if this was changed at the port. But i think it is the same on the steam version. Myself i am not far at the game and i will not go far fast because of too much work at the real world...

[nobrien]

thx alot for taking the time.

[st.rev.dr.rev]

Bat swarm + conjure does way more damage and ignores dodge chance. Wish I'd noticed it before reaching level 60.

[OFF BEAT REHEAT]

I found that slashing weapons, bite and bat swarm is the best combo to use

[Hentaika]

Basically the game surely forces slashing dmg on you IMO.
Even the best gold/item drop(you really want to get gold/item drop to keep up with your equipment) rings usually come with slashing.

Buying a good greatsword is a key to essentially 1 shot(or at least finish the kill on the 1st combo turn) all enemies.

I would say best build IMO is a greatsword in main hand and an axe in offhand, maxing out the crit/crit dmg/slash dmg/weapon dmg in the skill tress.
Max out EXP/Gold/extra craft slot ASAP(always craft bloodstones)
Also maxing out the focus(maybe aside of max focus) branch of the tree and do combo branch to reach the vampiric steal from basic attacks.
And last but not least going dodge build(which consists mostly of simply maxing out dodge in the skill tree), enough equip
This is enough to carry you through all the content aside of super challenging postgame content where you need shield and HP on top of dodge build.

The key items to buy are:
The 23k gold wings/The 10.2k gold helmet/9k scavenger form(those will improve the quality of your gameplay a lot and are actually more useful early than late game - so rush those ASAP, early on you only need a greatsword, just use random armors you find and at most buy some accessories to further increase your income)
Greatsword - any big investment ones will do, I changed my greatsword only 3 or 4 times across the game and each time was an insane power boost. In 2nd continent the two good ones are - oathkeeper and then the last town one called Glimmer
Offhand - axe/sword(you can also take shield BUT it slows down the gameplay and is only important in postgame content to survive), the important thing is for it to have both crit chance and crit dmg %s which most do
Rings - crit%/slash/gold find/item drop
Necklace can be anything, but preferably also with gold drop or item drop.
Gloves with slash/weapon dmg OR a decent alternatives is those gloves with crit % chance on
Armor - I like the mythic one in easthaven for even more gold gain while gaining decent stats across the board.
Pants - Dodge/max focus/focus regen
Boots - dodge/max focus/focus regen
Cape - honestly up to you, I prefer crit chance ones, the 2nd tier final brutal is my favorite one(clear all brutals twice), before that I used the aendisea brutal one.

Most of the absolute best equip comes in 2nd continent last town near the endless swamp BUT any other mythic equip which has stats I mention above ain't too much worse than that one.. and that last town is like an hour before you finish the game anyway.

Don't be afraid to invest bloodstones into greatsword, you will use each new greatsword for a while and you actually can even get some bloodstones back from enchanting it by selecting the unbind button.


The strategy with most non hard content is:
1) Initiate with weapon buff.(only if the enemy won't already to fall to 1 crit of yours, in which case dual attacking is worth it to save time and sometimes finish battles in 1 turn)
2) Either double attack(if you are certain double attack will finish your opponent) OR backstab(this is especially good if your 2nd weapon is weak which can happen since most of the time you will only have enough cash to invest into good greatsword and accessories/armor)
3) If you reach combo turn - any non boss enemy is done for essentially since the heavy slash for 50-65 focus will absolutely annihilate them.

The strategy on stuff that actually deals some damage is:
1) Armor up turn 1 and upkeep the armor throughout battle.
2) Weapon damage up and then only do basic attack/bite/heavy slash.
Bite is usually a cheap but long way to win most non postgame battles as you will in most cases outlive your enemy with bite + armor up, you only need good focus regen to support it.



IF you are still looking for the postgame content after you beat game, the build will change into:
Shield block/Dodge/max HP/Vampire steal(lvl 1 or 2 will be enough to reach max life steal most of the time)
The idea is basically that you dodge OR block most of the stuff thrown and your max HP is so high for the sake of actually raising the limit of life you can steal, so whenever you get hit - chances are you will steal it back by next time you get hit.
Damage wise - the build also focuses on greatsword and heavy slashing during combo turn.
Also another skill comes into play which is the fracture aka 'physical armor reduce' essentially you will eventually have so much focus that in combo turn you will be able to:
Weapon enchant, 3x fracture on enemy and then heavy slash it all the way for the rest of the focus.
This will deal immense damage.

[nobrien]

hey thanks for that wall of text, even tho i uninstalled after 1st run and started NG+ because the type of play running back and forth all over for 85% of the game play time bores me to tears and i actually fell asleep at the keyboard.

i do appreciate the time you took to right it and i did read it, if at some time they add some kind of skill were you can maybe bat form travel back to your last position ect or add a marker to the map that let you travel too that would cut down on alot of that back and forth, but i doubt that will ever happen.

thx for that info i found it quite useful.

EDIT: i am no longer following this thread.

[DarkOne]

Originally posted by Hentaika:

Basically the game surely forces slashing dmg on you IMO.
Even the best gold/item drop(you really want to get gold/item drop to keep up with your equipment) rings usually come with slashing.

Buying a good greatsword is a key to essentially 1 shot(or at least finish the kill on the 1st combo turn) all enemies.

I would say best build IMO is a greatsword in main hand and an axe in offhand, maxing out the crit/crit dmg/slash dmg/weapon dmg in the skill tress.
Max out EXP/Gold/extra craft slot ASAP(always craft bloodstones)
Also maxing out the focus(maybe aside of max focus) branch of the tree and do combo branch to reach the vampiric steal from basic attacks.
And last but not least going dodge build(which consists mostly of simply maxing out dodge in the skill tree), enough equip
This is enough to carry you through all the content aside of super challenging postgame content where you need shield and HP on top of dodge build.

The key items to buy are:
The 23k gold wings/The 10.2k gold helmet/9k scavenger form(those will improve the quality of your gameplay a lot and are actually more useful early than late game - so rush those ASAP, early on you only need a greatsword, just use random armors you find and at most buy some accessories to further increase your income)
Greatsword - any big investment ones will do, I changed my greatsword only 3 or 4 times across the game and each time was an insane power boost. In 2nd continent the two good ones are - oathkeeper and then the last town one called Glimmer
Offhand - axe/sword(you can also take shield BUT it slows down the gameplay and is only important in postgame content to survive), the important thing is for it to have both crit chance and crit dmg %s which most do
Rings - crit%/slash/gold find/item drop
Necklace can be anything, but preferably also with gold drop or item drop.
Gloves with slash/weapon dmg OR a decent alternatives is those gloves with crit % chance on
Armor - I like the mythic one in easthaven for even more gold gain while gaining decent stats across the board.
Pants - Dodge/max focus/focus regen
Boots - dodge/max focus/focus regen
Cape - honestly up to you, I prefer crit chance ones, the 2nd tier final brutal is my favorite one(clear all brutals twice), before that I used the aendisea brutal one.

Most of the absolute best equip comes in 2nd continent last town near the endless swamp BUT any other mythic equip which has stats I mention above ain't too much worse than that one.. and that last town is like an hour before you finish the game anyway.

Don't be afraid to invest bloodstones into greatsword, you will use each new greatsword for a while and you actually can even get some bloodstones back from enchanting it by selecting the unbind button.


The strategy with most non hard content is:
1) Initiate with weapon buff.(only if the enemy won't already to fall to 1 crit of yours, in which case dual attacking is worth it to save time and sometimes finish battles in 1 turn)
2) Either double attack(if you are certain double attack will finish your opponent) OR backstab(this is especially good if your 2nd weapon is weak which can happen since most of the time you will only have enough cash to invest into good greatsword and accessories/armor)
3) If you reach combo turn - any non boss enemy is done for essentially since the heavy slash for 50-65 focus will absolutely annihilate them.

The strategy on stuff that actually deals some damage is:
1) Armor up turn 1 and upkeep the armor throughout battle.
2) Weapon damage up and then only do basic attack/bite/heavy slash.
Bite is usually a cheap but long way to win most non postgame battles as you will in most cases outlive your enemy with bite + armor up, you only need good focus regen to support it.



IF you are still looking for the postgame content after you beat game, the build will change into:
Shield block/Dodge/max HP/Vampire steal(lvl 1 or 2 will be enough to reach max life steal most of the time)
The idea is basically that you dodge OR block most of the stuff thrown and your max HP is so high for the sake of actually raising the limit of life you can steal, so whenever you get hit - chances are you will steal it back by next time you get hit.
Damage wise - the build also focuses on greatsword and heavy slashing during combo turn.
Also another skill comes into play which is the fracture aka 'physical armor reduce' essentially you will eventually have so much focus that in combo turn you will be able to:
Weapon enchant, 3x fracture on enemy and then heavy slash it all the way for the rest of the focus.
This will deal immense damage.

Insane info.
So what exactly are the first items in which I should invest my money in ?

[Hentaika]

Greatsword is the one that will actually lower your encounter times from having to last a lot to 1 shotting/close to 1 shotting the enemy.
So if you feel like your battles are HEAVILY slowing down - greatsword is always the solution.
Some super cheap slashing damage comes next.. for example you probably don't have any gloves, but there are actually super cheap ones with decent slashing dmg(and nothing else)

Accessories with gold/item drop rates and at the same time having slashing are top priority as well. Basically out of big buys - greatswords and accessories, out of small buys - some slashing on other pieces of armor.
Once you reach the last city of first continent - you might as well buy the whole armor set there - it will carry you through the rest of the game(because of the insane focus on it) and it's not too expensive compared to top tier stuff in continent 2, while not being much worse either.
Always remember that greatsword is the main difference in making battles faster, so the cheaper the armor you can get - the better for you.

[DarkOne]

What's the overall money situation; will I be able to buy everything I want when I finish the game the first time ?
If not, how will I farm gold ?

[Hentaika]

Even with mostly gold/item drop and maxed gold % skill - you won't be able to get the best gear because game finishes 1 hour after you reach last town which has most of the best gear.

But it's easy to farm since with good greatsword battles finish in 1 turn. As for how to grind - random mobs you can 1 turn win on 2nd continent drop pretty expensive equips.

Thing is tho - grinding is useless in all scenarios. If you are going for max rebirth - it's bad idea to grind much before last rebirth as it improves the rates at which stuff drops.
AND the absolute best equipment(to be exact it's same equipment in last town but of higher quality) can only be bought on last rebirth.

So yeah - if you are planning for 1 playthrough - last town equip is mostly pointless as you won't use it for anything.
If you are planning for max rebirth(6 playthroughs) - you will get enough as you do those playthroughs.

And there is no real inbetween, since postgame challenging content is designed around max rebirth, but still possible with a few rebirths, I guess, just extremely annoying.

As for game itself - as long as you buy the continent 1 last town armor set + keep getting good accessories/good greatsword/great offhand axe or sword - you won't have problems with the game at all with 0 grind.

[DarkOne]

What's the last town's name ?
Can't I just go there before the game ends, buy some stuff and come back and continue the normal game.
Why Axe or sword in offhand and not a shield ?

[Hentaika]

The last towns name is.. I don't remember, it's near the endless swamp.. and no, you can't just run to it, it's gated behind a main quest.
Once you reach last town, as I already told - you have around 1 hour of gameplay left if you are just planning to rush main story.

2nd best greatsword is obtainable in the 1st big town of 2nd content IIRC(actually pretty early in the 2nd continent) - oathkeeper and it can carry you for the rest of the game... glimmer from last town is slightly better - but not by much..
out of armors - honestly, the mythic armor set from last town of continent 1 is more than enough.. gives you insane focus/focus regen and carries you through the whole game. Again - some last town equip is slightly better, but not by much.

Axe/Sword in offhand is better for easy content(basically all content aside of postgame challenges in last rebirth and maybe last 1-2 tiers of brutals) because it makes battles finish faster via backstab and double attacks... give both crit chances and crit damage and a nice secondary weap dmg.

[DarkOne]

From what I read, there's no point in doing the side quests after rebirth; maybe some if the reward is good.

[Hentaika]

Overall, I would suggest strongly against sidequests no matter what, they only slow you down, as simple grind and rushing main story is faster.(at least once you are little bit into the game, they are still 'okay' tier at the very beginning)

Both pre and past rebirth they are just not as efficient.. then again if you just want to beat the game once - no reason not to do all of em once if you feel like it.. some can be a bit fun/reference to something.

[Aversion]

I'm almost to level 60 and I've been doing well with dual katanas for the bleed effect. Maxed out vampiric touch and backstab. Spam backstab in every fight as many times as it will let me and just let the bleed stack up. Not saying it's a big brain strat but it's working for me and it's pretty fun.