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Dr-Bowlglas Aug 5, 2024 @ 12:20am
Why to unlock the DLC Sword player need to beat entire game?
So, after obtaining season pass of this game, and reseting all my game progress (for clearer expireance) and strart new one, I completed 1st mission. After this I checked supply box and I have seen al DLC weapons among vanila guns and all of them were locked. That's fine. In my opinion, DLC gun's shouldn't be obtained immediatly after tutorial mission. Not like in Watch Dogs 2 where you can buy all your DLC guns for 0 $ in the first base. DLC guns shoud be built into the game's progression along with vanilas to not ruining it. Soon I unlcoked machine gun and revolver by beating both DLC missions and that's still fine. It just about progression I have told before. But the sword unllock is different. It unlocks in the supply box only after beating game (last story mission). Meanwhile machine gun and revolver are part of walkthrough expeireance Sword is not. Yes, you can pick up it in TF63 base or Omega facility and try to carry it through the game, but if you lost it (and by some strange bag you can loose all DLC weapons wich you carrying in your inventory when you open the game and loading in safehouse) once you'll need to beat one of these missions again while carrying the sword or continue your walkthrough untill the ending. In this case Sword is post-end-game unlock. And it could be considered like worthy only stuff, but this is not like such things usualy work. I don't think that the most players who bought Bladekisser DLC excpected such twist. In the DLC we get two additional story missions and that fact gives players reason to excpect sword as one of unlocks after beating them. The good example of worthy only stuff is the Hand Cannon from Dead Space 2. Player unlocks it only after beating entire game on Hard Core mode. The fact there was no reasons to excpect this weapon unlock before beating the game and also no requirements to buy any DLC makes this weapon worthy only stuff.

In my point the good requirement to unlock this weapon is beating both DLC missions. Each of them part of the Bladekisser DLC and each of them has sword as a pickup (it makes it even more logical), while being none end game mission.
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solid steve Aug 5, 2024 @ 12:25pm 
the sword makes a lot of the game pretty trivial, i think it's fine as is
Mav Aug 6, 2024 @ 2:47am 
^ Sword is busted, "infinite ammo" that 1 shots lesser enemies on almost any difficulty is insane, if it was granted to players before beating the game (which you can do by going to the DLC missions like you said) it makes the next levels a complete cakewalk
Dr-Bowlglas Aug 6, 2024 @ 8:04am 
Originally posted by Mav:
^ Sword is busted, "infinite ammo" that 1 shots lesser enemies on almost any difficulty is insane, if it was granted to players before beating the game (which you can do by going to the DLC missions like you said) it makes the next levels a complete cakewalk


Originally posted by Nexus0:
the sword makes a lot of the game pretty trivial, i think it's fine as is

I disagree with this, **to** but be sure I will not be unfounded, I do a couple tests with Iron Dragon mission. Think it will be most representative because in my opinion it is the mostdifficult mission in the game.

UPD: added "to"
Last edited by Dr-Bowlglas; Aug 6, 2024 @ 8:33am
bored huy Aug 6, 2024 @ 10:37am 
the sword is fine and it have some weakness such as eod and shield enemy, it heavily a close range weapon in a game where most enemy are long range
it fun and fairly balance but sometime its best to go all gun
Dr-Bowlglas Aug 7, 2024 @ 12:20pm 
Originally posted by Dr-Bowlglas:
Originally posted by Mav:
^ Sword is busted, "infinite ammo" that 1 shots lesser enemies on almost any difficulty is insane, if it was granted to players before beating the game (which you can do by going to the DLC missions like you said) it makes the next levels a complete cakewalk


Originally posted by Nexus0:
the sword makes a lot of the game pretty trivial, i think it's fine as is

I disagree with this, **to** but be sure I will not be unfounded, I do a couple tests with Iron Dragon mission. Think it will be most representative because in my opinion it is the mostdifficult mission in the game.

UPD: added "to"

After 2 tests on extreme difficulty with enabled DLC weapons I got results. All tests were conducted after completing 1st two storry mission with DLC weapons on and Extreme dificulty. After beating mentioned missions I made a coppy of my safe files. The tests were conducted in Iron Dragon mission (In my opinion hardest mission among all missions in the game). After first test where thre was no sword avalible, restore my progresion with reserved saves. To conduct 2nd test made some sort of modding to add the sword into supply box.
Here is my progression before I beat mentined mission:
Obtained attachments:
pistol, suppresor, compensator, laser;
smg: suppresor
shotgun: suppresor, choke.
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Avalibel to buy supplies (during the mission in yellow box):
pistol, smg, rifle, DMR, throwing knives, flasbangs, dcoy granade, armor, health kit, gas granage, ([DURING THE SECOND TEST] sword)

Here is starting Inventory for the tests:
DMR (10 bullets in mag, 30 bullets reserved); no atachments for barrel and light and 3.5X scope (default);
Pistol (during sword test has been replaced with sword): (13 bullets in mag and 65 reserved), suppresor fore barel and, no light attachments and single fire (default)
5 gas granades
Full body armor and health

NO SWORD test:
It took 87 minutes (1 h and 27 min). During the replaced pistol with a shot gun from drom dead enemy and attached suppresor to it. While tesing moustlly bought gas granades) I withstand 9 wawes and after killin last HVT extracted.

WITH SWORD test:
It took 51 minutes. While tesing moustlly bought gas granades) I withstand 9 wawes and after killin last HVT extracted.

In coclusion I am agree that the sword is too powerfull.
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Date Posted: Aug 5, 2024 @ 12:20am
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