ray tracing support?

[TROFY-KSA]

there are ALOT of reflective surfaces, i hope there is ray tracing support.. SSR is ♥♥♥♥ with such surfaces

[breadman]

no rt

[TROFY-KSA]

Originally posted by breadman:

no rt

UGH, not buying another game with ♥♥♥♥ SSR artifacts

[um gweh]

Originally posted by TROFY-KSA:

Originally posted by breadman:

no rt

UGH, not buying another game with ♥♥♥♥ SSR artifacts

disable ssr then

[Abyssal Crow]

imagine being such a RTbrain that you can't appreciate a decent game without it.

[TROFY-KSA]

Originally posted by Abyssal Crow:

imagine being such a RTbrain that you can't appreciate a decent game without it.

i tried the demo
its awesome
but the SSR artifacts are so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ (we are censoring g0d, zam.n steam??) distracting its annoying, i want to enjoy this game artstyle to the fullest in addition to the gameplay. SSR artifacts isnt part of the artstyle and just ruins everything
ray tracing solves that. and provides a visual stability i 100% need

[um gweh]

Originally posted by TROFY-KSA:

Originally posted by Abyssal Crow:

imagine being such a RTbrain that you can't appreciate a decent game without it.

i tried the demo
its awesome
but the SSR artifacts are so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ (we are censoring g0d, zam.n steam??) distracting its annoying, i want to enjoy this game artstyle to the fullest in addition to the gameplay. SSR artifacts isnt part of the artstyle and just ruins everything
ray tracing solves that. and provides a visual stability i 100% need

disable ssr then

[Nathan]

Originally posted by Nathan:

You could try and see if turning off SSR (screen space reflections) would help that.
Go to
"C:\Users\---------\AppData\Local\CPPFPS\Saved\Config\WindowsNoEditor\Engine.ini"
Open that engine ini in notepad (BTW Appdata is by default a hidden folder, you can unhide folders in explorer in the view tab
Add under all the lines, (leave a few empty rows, both under the [core] stuff as well as under what you'll add)

[/script/engine.renderersettings]
r.SSR.Quality=0
r.SSR=0

https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Engine:Unreal_Engine_4#Screen_Space_Reflections

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1164940/discussions/0/3808404524164832272/#c3808404524170821326

[TROFY-KSA]

Originally posted by unconnected:

Originally posted by TROFY-KSA:

i tried the demo
its awesome
but the SSR artifacts are so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ (we are censoring g0d, zam.n steam??) distracting its annoying, i want to enjoy this game artstyle to the fullest in addition to the gameplay. SSR artifacts isnt part of the artstyle and just ruins everything
ray tracing solves that. and provides a visual stability i 100% need

disable ssr then

reflections are part of the artstyle
i dont want to disable it
i want RT to be added

[breadman]

Originally posted by TROFY-KSA:

UGH, not buying another game with ♥♥♥♥ SSR artifacts

sucks that you let graphics dictate your enjoyment of games but you do you

[TROFY-KSA]

Originally posted by breadman:

Originally posted by TROFY-KSA:

UGH, not buying another game with ♥♥♥♥ SSR artifacts

sucks that you let graphics dictate your enjoyment of games but you do you

i enjoy both graphics and good gameplay. a game with good graphics ill play once, a game with good gameplay ill replay it over and over again, a game that looks realistic should have advanced graphics tech tho. its like a cherry on the top that makes me 100% satisfied

[breadman]

Originally posted by TROFY-KSA:

reflections are part of the artstyle
i dont want to disable it
i want RT to be added

this was developed by like four people, they're not gonna satisfy your every whim just cause you want it

besides i'd rather they spend time on more content than wasting time on visual gimmicks like rt

[TROFY-KSA]

Originally posted by breadman:

Originally posted by TROFY-KSA:

reflections are part of the artstyle
i dont want to disable it
i want RT to be added

this was developed by like four people, they're not gonna satisfy your every whim just cause you want it

besides i'd rather they spend time on more content than wasting time on visual gimmicks like rt

its a toggle in UE4 lmao
why not enable it lol
Ray tracing is the future of gaming and rasterization is just holding us back from having fully dynamic worlds

[breadman]

Originally posted by TROFY-KSA:

its a toggle in UE4 lmao

yeah, if you want it to run like ass

proper implementation of rt isn't a simple toggle, it requires time, testing, optimization

[Nathan]

Dev BTW already answered this:

Originally posted by wilsonTrepang:

This is a possibility in the future perhaps. We actually experimented with a few RTGI solutions, RT shadows and RT reflections around 2020. The GI solutions had too many noticeable artifacts (leaking/popping), especially with how fast the player moves and all the flashing lights everywhere, and had a very heavy performance impact, so we decided to leave it and wait and see if there are improvements someday. Shadows and reflections had way too many artifacts unfortunately, especially with the first person arms/legs, not sure if they would ever be viable for this type of game.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1164940/discussions/0/3808404524158111229/#c3808404524160660019

TL:DR
They experimented, but raytracing is still in its infancy and in a fast paced game you see also a lot of artifacts with RT as "true" realtime rt that could hold up in fast gameplay is still something almost no one does because it's too expensive.

A lot of people don't understand that many games technically cheat, the RT is still basically screen space, using heavy occlusion culling and such, and it's not true realtime.

[TROFY-KSA]

Originally posted by breadman:

Originally posted by TROFY-KSA:

its a toggle in UE4 lmao

yeah, if you want it to run like ass

proper implementation of rt isn't a simple toggle, it requires time and testing

a proper ray tracing implementation (through UE4 at least) is actually simple. there is alot of parameters to change stuff like SPP and resolution culling etc
we also have DLSS, they can also add DLSS 3 too if they want to because its a literal plugin too lol