Trepang2 is very disappointing for me (as a huge fan of boomer shooters), where does the hype come from?

[GamerX]

Hi there,

I´ve played Trepang2 to the end of the second level and then stopped and deinstalled immediatelly.
How can it be that a game like this is rated "overwhelmingly positive" on steam?

Look, I´m a fan of all the classic FPS games (Doom, Quake, all Build-Engine Games of the 90s) and I´ve played all the highly rated "boomer shooters" (Dusk, Amid Evil, Incision, Turbo Overkill, Ultrakill, Cultic, Postal: Braindead and many, many more).

When it comes to FEAR, I´ve played them all and especially liked the first two parts. However, I don´t think that these games were GREAT (on the same level as Black Mesa / Quake / Blood), they were just “good” story shooters. The bullet time mechanic was unique at that time, but I always thought that it was more suitable for a third person shooter (Max Payne 1).

What I didn´t like about Trepang2:

- Same boring level structure as it was in FEAR. Come on, FEAR never had good levels, just boring, never-ending hallways through warehouses, office building etc. FEAR also didn´t really have very satisfying gunplay; what kept me playing in the first place was the story and the atmosphere.

- That leads me to the next point: The story in Trepang2 is non-existent (and if there is a story, it is a joke)

- The gunfights are too fast for my taste. I have no problem with fast FPS games in general (I´ve played through Ultrakill, Turbo Overkill, Doom Eternal), but I think that the overall pace doesn´t fit here. FEAR has never been this fast, by the way.

- I hate bullet spongy enemies, enemies with shields and so on. It´s just annoying, you´ll find them everywhere here.

- There are no ironsights in this game, I mean, really?

- The gunplay in this game is NOT satisfying. Yes, there are lots of particle effects everywhere, everything goes boom, but the rest feels like a typical Call of Duty game for me. Guns have no punch, impact feels poor. Satisfying gunplay is more like Prodeus, CULTIC, HROT or DUSK for me.

I´m sorry, why do people like Trepang2? Maybe because all the other recent (not boomer-like) FPS games are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ nowadays?

I´m not here just to critize the game, instead I would like to know why so many people seem to like it? Can´t understand the hype.

[GamerX]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Proxy:

Just noticed my previous comment was just cut, the result seems curt now.
Now to properly answer your question, you answered it yourself, we are starved for at least a decent shooter, we had nothing the past few years, if it wasn't some multiplayer call of duty wannabe with battlepasses, it was some kind of "rpg" or some other nonsense mixed it.
It's a breathe of fresh air, people look fondly on Fear for its qualities and wanted more, that's what this game is, no more, no less.

Okay, I can see that. I really didn´t want to mess it up, go play this game if you like it.
It was just very surprising for me, because mostly, "overwhelmingly positive" on steam is given for exceptionally good titles. I just couldn´t see that here.

It´s really a sad time nowadays for gamers. Hopefully there will be a time again like in the early 2000s when one outstanding game after another is being released.

I´ve played through the System Shock Remake before, but that´s a competely different game (immersive sim, not really an FPS).

[GamerX]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Tr0w:

F.E.A.R.s levels were designed that way because they allowed the AI function in an intelligent manner. Also F.E.A.R. is a better FPS than Quake 1 and Blood.

No, Sir. Go play through classic Quake (with a graphics mod) or Blood 1997 (Nightdive Studios released a remaster) and you´ll see that FEAR doesn´t even come close here.

[mie001]

It is what it is. If you so want your "great old school shooter" then go create one

[Trevor Reznik]

"There are no ironsights in this game, I mean, really?"

This right here shows me you are not truly a boomer shooter fan and are just a low life troll.

Iron sights got popularised in 2003 and introduced a bit before in Delta Force, long after the boomer shooter era had ended.

[TheSha]

Początkowo opublikowane przez GamerX:

Hi there,

I´ve played Trepang2 to the end of the second level and then stopped and deinstalled immediatelly.
How can it be that a game like this is rated "overwhelmingly positive" on steam?

Look, I´m a fan of all the classic FPS games (Doom, Quake, all Build-Engine Games of the 90s) and I´ve played all the highly rated "boomer shooters" (Dusk, Amid Evil, Incision, Turbo Overkill, Ultrakill, Cultic, Postal: Braindead and many, many more).

When it comes to FEAR, I´ve played them all and especially liked the first two parts. However, I don´t think that these games were GREAT (on the same level as Black Mesa / Quake / Blood), they were just “good” story shooters. The bullet time mechanic was unique at that time, but I always thought that it was more suitable for a third person shooter (Max Payne 1).

What I didn´t like about Trepang2:

- Same boring level structure as it was in FEAR. Come on, FEAR never had good levels, just boring, never-ending hallways through warehouses, office building etc. FEAR also didn´t really have very satisfying gunplay; what kept me playing in the first place was the story and the atmosphere.

- That leads me to the next point: The story in Trepang2 is non-existent (and if there is a story, it is a joke)

- The gunfights are too fast for my taste. I have no problem with fast FPS games in general (I´ve played through Ultrakill, Turbo Overkill, Doom Eternal), but I think that the overall pace doesn´t fit here. FEAR has never been this fast, by the way.

- I hate bullet spongy enemies, enemies with shields and so on. It´s just annoying, you´ll find them everywhere here.

- There are no ironsights in this game, I mean, really?

- The gunplay in this game is NOT satisfying. Yes, there are lots of particle effects everywhere, everything goes boom, but the rest feels like a typical Call of Duty game for me. Guns have no punch, impact feels poor. Satisfying gunplay is more like Prodeus, CULTIC, HROT or DUSK for me.

I´m sorry, why do people like Trepang2? Maybe because all the other recent (not boomer-like) FPS games are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ nowadays?

I´m not here just to critize the game, instead I would like to know why so many people seem to like it? Can´t understand the hype.

Wait wait wait, you say you're a fan of boomer shooters yet you complain about the nonexistent story and the fact that there's no ironsights? (Even if they are in the game, you just need to unlock them as a cheat). Trepang2 is not a boomer shooter, it's more like a movement shooter

[decizion]

Sadly I did not enjoy this game much, I really wanted this to be great, I followed the development for many years. This game had so much potential sadly the finished product was not worth the wait.
Trepang2 wanted to be a spiritual successor of F.E.A.R. but also wanted to be a fast paced over the top DOOM like at the same time, this mix just doesn't work here in the end.
The gunplay is good albeit a bit flawed but everything else is mediocre tbh. Trepang2 is not entirely a bad game or what I would call a complete trashfire but in my opinion it doesn't deserve overwhelmingly positive reviews. Blame the stupid steam review system I guess and the hivemind sheep mentality too.

I do not agree with you when you say Trepang2 gunplay is not satisfying.
It is fast paced and most of the guns feel satisfying (except the shogun).
Unfortunately the major problem is that it does get boring and reach such high level of repetitiveness to the point I don't even want to continue playing it. In Trepang2 each encounters feels and play exactly the same.
With F.E.A.R. at least you had to think a bit about how you would engage into a gunfight, the maps were designed in a such a way that the enemies would retreat, reposition and try to outmaneuver you, it felt engaging and interesting.
In Trepang2 you just rush like a maniac fighting dozens of generic enemies with bad AI in poorly designed maps with a limited and unoriginal arsenal, it inevitably leads to mind-numbing combat.

I also don't agree when you say the level design or gunplay is not great in F.E.A.R..
Better not forget the game is almost twenty years old by now and they had to deal with the limited tech they had back then. Personally I think the level design and combat is still way better or at least more interesting in F.E.A.R. than it is in Trepang2. By the way go try the shotgun in the first F.E.A.R. game and have the audacity to tell me the shotgun is better in Trepang2.

Finally I did not like any of the story, characters or cutscenes.
To me they all felt unmemorable, underdeveloped and at no moment I felt engaged with the story or connected to the universe of Trepang2.
But that's a fps so we can forgive that and as the mastermind John Carmack once said:
“Story in a game is like story in a porn movie; it's expected to be there, but it's not that important.”

[calembredaine]

hype comes from the demos being good proofs of concept for a paranormal gunfu shooter. afaik you did not have a lot of them until a somewhat recent wave, which trepang2 was a part of.

reviews are overwhelmingly positive because it turns out most people did not care at all about what you disliked. maybe they got distinct standards, maybe they were brainwashed. ik as much as you there.

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Początkowo opublikowane przez Tr0w:

F.E.A.R.s levels were designed that way because they allowed the AI function in an intelligent manner. Also F.E.A.R. is a better FPS than Quake 1 and Blood.

No, Sir. Go play through classic Quake (with a graphics mod) or Blood 1997 (Nightdive Studios released a remaster) and you´ll see that FEAR doesn´t even come close here.

apples to oranges, really

[Winblows]

you were disappointed Trepang2 wasnt a boomer shooter because its not a boomer shooter. idk what to tell you. you clearly want a doom/ build engine game, this aint it.

people like fear 1 and 2 for the game play

[Gtwo]

Wtf is a boomer shooter? Back in the day we used to call those games first person shooter, did i miss something?

[ATP_Engineer]

I hope this was bait because you got a lot of people with riled up with the "I was pretending this is a boomer shooter" angle. Anyway, I will take a break from this amazing game to play an actual boomer shooter on my kitchen refrigerator.

[-Ghost-]

I'm not saying it isn't fun, just that it's kind of janky and isn't really all that close to being a FEAR successor. I ended up refunding it and I'll probably pick it up again when it's on sale and patched a bit more.

[♛KingBongHogger♛]

While I don't share the same opinion, I get this how this game wouldn't be some people's cup of tea. I've had spicy takes on high-rated games, so I feel ya

[Zeris]

If you felt nothing when you grabbed a mother f**ker and threw them into another mother f**ker, and then both of those mother f**kers exploded, then the game just isn't for you. Simple as. No explanation really needed.

[Undercover]

You`re talking about doom, quake and games from the 90`s, but F.E.A.R isn't that fear was a 2000`s game and not all that close to the other boomer shooters you are talking about, i loved cultic and im really enjoying this game too i think a game like cultic (that's full of secrets) and a more linear game like trepang 2 shouldn't really be compared together as boomer shooters when what makes them special doesn't normally apply to both games

[Gtwo]

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You`re talking about doom, quake and games from the 90`s, but F.E.A.R isn't that fear was a 2000`s game and not all that close to the other boomer shooters you are talking about, i loved cultic and im really enjoying this game too i think a game like cultic (that's full of secrets) and a more linear game like trepang 2 shouldn't really be compared together as boomer shooters when what makes them special doesn't normally apply to both games

Boomer shooter my ass dawg