I can't beat Italy after 11 new heroes?!

[Han-Man]

I have 11 custom characters, so I have finished the new hero mode 11 times. Some of the characters are even pretty good.

Now, i'm on my 5th MF and I can't beat Italy. They counter every move i make, every dribble, every tackle and I can't do anything, Italy destroys me and I recently lost with 8-2.

I literally surrounded one of the Italian players in front of my goal with 5 of my own players and they all took turns tackling and sliding, and they all failed, then the Italian guy instantly shot his super shot. And during the second half, Italy had V-zone activated 3 times.

I have never had this much trouble before, what is going on?

[Ralcrow]

Check the star rating on the match. You've probably gotten so good that now they have you playing them at max difficulty. It happens. The game never warns you that the better you play, the better your enemies play, too.

[Ralcrow]

Also, Italy has an annoying V-zone power, Catenaccio. Try not to let them fill their V Zone bar too much, cause that's a skill that makes it impossible for you to reach their net (when they have Catenaccio active, their defenders 100% win tackles and slides)

[Firefly]

Originally posted by Asalieri:

Also, Italy has an annoying V-zone power, Catenaccio. Try not to let them fill their V Zone bar too much, cause that's a skill that makes it impossible for you to reach their net (when they have Catenaccio active, their defenders 100% win tackles and slides)

That V Zone is pure hell. Also it's kinda hard not to fill their V Zone. The AI is just way too random. Some matches they are dumb as hell, some matches, they will dodge each and every tackle/slide. I remember my final match vs brazil. Once Carlos had the ball, it was a 100% assured goal for them. Even waiting for him to start charging his shot was no help. They charge their shots faster than you can blink with your eyes.
Though about the difficulty. Does the game icnrease after each successful match or rather after each completed run? Im refering to your first comment.

[Ralcrow]

Originally posted by Firefly:

Originally posted by Asalieri:

Also, Italy has an annoying V-zone power, Catenaccio. Try not to let them fill their V Zone bar too much, cause that's a skill that makes it impossible for you to reach their net (when they have Catenaccio active, their defenders 100% win tackles and slides)

That V Zone is pure hell. Also it's kinda hard not to fill their V Zone. The AI is just way too random. Some matches they are dumb as hell, some matches, they will dodge each and every tackle/slide. I remember my final match vs brazil. Once Carlos had the ball, it was a 100% assured goal for them. Even waiting for him to start charging his shot was no help. They charge their shots faster than you can blink with your eyes.
Though about the difficulty. Does the game icnrease after each successful match or rather after each completed run? Im refering to your first comment.

Far as I can tell, the more S's you get in your results, the harder the next match will be.

At 3 stars, Italy will build their v-zone meter easier and Hernandez WILL use his special block.

And yeah, it's hard but if you can keep Italy from the ball as much as possible, their v-zone will not build as fast. Easier said than done, though.

[Firefly]

Originally posted by Asalieri:

Originally posted by Firefly:

That V Zone is pure hell. Also it's kinda hard not to fill their V Zone. The AI is just way too random. Some matches they are dumb as hell, some matches, they will dodge each and every tackle/slide. I remember my final match vs brazil. Once Carlos had the ball, it was a 100% assured goal for them. Even waiting for him to start charging his shot was no help. They charge their shots faster than you can blink with your eyes.
Though about the difficulty. Does the game icnrease after each successful match or rather after each completed run? Im refering to your first comment.

Far as I can tell, the more S's you get in your results, the harder the next match will be.

At 3 stars, Italy will build their v-zone meter easier and Hernandez WILL use his special block.

And yeah, it's hard but if you can keep Italy from the ball as much as possible, their v-zone will not build as fast. Easier said than done, though.

That would probably explain my match vs brazil. Carlos was seriously unstoppable. I barely won against them. It ended 5 - 4 for me.

[Han-Man]

Originally posted by Asalieri:

Check the star rating on the match. You've probably gotten so good that now they have you playing them at max difficulty. It happens. The game never warns you that the better you play, the better your enemies play, too.

I was thinking about that, because I had my best run yet. I had several SSS matches for my character, which I don't have very often. So the game has a dynamic difficulty setting?

I did manage to beat them with 1-0 after like 8 re-tries.

And I wonder how you get S in shots?
I only get A for scoring 2 goals but I get SS for 3 goals.

[Firefly]

Originally posted by Han-Man:

Originally posted by Asalieri:

Check the star rating on the match. You've probably gotten so good that now they have you playing them at max difficulty. It happens. The game never warns you that the better you play, the better your enemies play, too.

I was thinking about that, because I had my best run yet. I had several SSS matches for my character, which I don't have very often. So the game has a dynamic difficulty setting?

I did manage to beat them with 1-0 after like 8 re-tries.

And I wonder how you get S in shots?
I only get A for scoring 2 goals but I get SS for 3 goals.

The most efficient way to get S+ in shots is by scoring. You get points for shots on the goal, but you get most of the points in shooting, by scoring. Best way to do it is by weaking the GK with strong shooters like Hyuga and Tsubasa and after the GK has barely any spirit left, let your main character score. My second run was really so much better than my first run. I created a FW player character. Pushing your power level did the trick for me and also having Hyugas Tiger Shot. To my surprise I got Ruscianos Curtain Shot, even though I could only level him to rank B. Having a super shot really helps a LOT in achieving SS or even SSS rank in shooting. My second FW is currently able to deplete 80% of Mullers spirit gauge.

[Han-Man]

Originally posted by Firefly:

Originally posted by Han-Man:

I was thinking about that, because I had my best run yet. I had several SSS matches for my character, which I don't have very often. So the game has a dynamic difficulty setting?

I did manage to beat them with 1-0 after like 8 re-tries.

And I wonder how you get S in shots?
I only get A for scoring 2 goals but I get SS for 3 goals.

The most efficient way to get S+ in shots is by scoring. You get points for shots on the goal, but you get most of the points in shooting, by scoring. Best way to do it is by weaking the GK with strong shooters like Hyuga and Tsubasa and after the GK has barely any spirit left, let your main character score. My second run was really so much better than my first run. I created a FW player character. Pushing your power level did the trick for me and also having Hyugas Tiger Shot. To my surprise I got Ruscianos Curtain Shot, even though I could only level him to rank B. Having a super shot really helps a LOT in achieving SS or even SSS rank in shooting. My second FW is currently able to deplete 80% of Mullers spirit gauge.

Yeah, that is my strat. Weakening the goalie with other, more powerful players and then score with my own character. I also use shots like slice shot and analyze shot to score from their "sweet spots" in the midfield so the ball flies past the goalie.
But I found it strange that 2 goals gives me A rank and 3 goals gives me SS rank.

[Ralcrow]

Originally posted by Han-Man:

Originally posted by Asalieri:

Check the star rating on the match. You've probably gotten so good that now they have you playing them at max difficulty. It happens. The game never warns you that the better you play, the better your enemies play, too.

I was thinking about that, because I had my best run yet. I had several SSS matches for my character, which I don't have very often. So the game has a dynamic difficulty setting?

I did manage to beat them with 1-0 after like 8 re-tries.

And I wonder how you get S in shots?
I only get A for scoring 2 goals but I get SS for 3 goals.

S in shots, score 3 goals minimum.

SS, score 3 if you've shot enough times, 4 gets it guaranteed.

SSS score 5 if you've shot enough times, 6 gets it guaranteed.

[Ralcrow]

Originally posted by Han-Man:

But I found it strange that 2 goals gives me A rank and 3 goals gives me SS rank.

It's because you shot enough times in addition to scoring. Sometimes you can score 3 and only be on S because you still only shot 3 and scored 3. If you shoot 5-6 times and score 3, then you have SS.

[Firefly]

A bit off-topic, but got any advices on how to raise/build a DF character @ Asalieri?
I'm aiming for a DF character on the Musashi Road. I usually ended up getting D ranks on passes and tackles, which sadly resulted in my FW not getting any good long passes.

[Han-Man]

Originally posted by Asalieri:

Originally posted by Han-Man:

But I found it strange that 2 goals gives me A rank and 3 goals gives me SS rank.

It's because you shot enough times in addition to scoring. Sometimes you can score 3 and only be on S because you still only shot 3 and scored 3. If you shoot 5-6 times and score 3, then you have SS.

Okay, I see. So I just have to keep bombarding the goal. Thanks!

[Han-Man]

Originally posted by Firefly:

A bit off-topic, but got any advices on how to raise/build a DF character @ Asalieri?
I'm aiming for a DF character on the Musashi Road. I usually ended up getting D ranks on passes and tackles, which sadly resulted in my FW not getting any good long passes.

I tend to play very selfish, I always pass back to my created DF and try to play as a playmaker, basically play as a MF and get the multi-role skill. That got me an 150+ cost DF.

[Ralcrow]

Originally posted by Firefly:

A bit off-topic, but got any advices on how to raise/build a DF character @ Asalieri?
I'm aiming for a DF character on the Musashi Road. I usually ended up getting D ranks on passes and tackles, which sadly resulted in my FW not getting any good long passes.

OOf. I usually go with Toho when I do a DF run. Musashi can be tricky, as no one on your team except for Misugi can really score and as a DF, you're not really supposed to be on that job. Worse, in the Toho match you have no Misugi to bail you out, sometimes it can be hard to get the SS required to fulfill the Great Success.

That said, the whole idea of raising a DF is so you can use them later, presumably, against other human players. So anything that increases block power and range, like the Wall skills and Wakado Karate from Wakashimazu, as well as Lucky Boy from Morisaki all good skills to put on your defenders.

[Ralcrow]

Originally posted by Han-Man:

Originally posted by Firefly:

A bit off-topic, but got any advices on how to raise/build a DF character @ Asalieri?
I'm aiming for a DF character on the Musashi Road. I usually ended up getting D ranks on passes and tackles, which sadly resulted in my FW not getting any good long passes.

I tend to play very selfish, I always pass back to my created DF and try to play as a playmaker, basically play as a MF and get the multi-role skill. That got me an 150+ cost DF.

Cost means nothing. I'd rather have a lower cost player with better skills than one that costs a lot but isn't as effective. Since you're not planning to score with your defenders, it makes them cheaper and thus easier to put on your Dream Team if you just put the necessary defensive skills on them and don't bother with super shots and combo shots with them.