Trade Agreements

[Slippy]

I feel I must be missing something here.

I want to trade using exports/import depots. To do this I need a trade agreement. My neighbour will only give me a trade agreement for 361K. That is practically impossible for me to reach.

I rolled a few new games to get a feel for trade prices and they are lot lower (all on beta). Some of them I started with 'isolated' some without that notification and they were all much more reasonable (all under 10K, most under 5K). Did I just roll an unlucky seed for my first proper city?

[robtock216]

i guess so yes, every map is different, prices are different on all goods, availability of goods is different and those prices and availability change over time.
you can pay in goods instead of cash, you can trade via demand/offer in the meantime to collect cash.
you can send gifts of goods, wood for example which is usually plentiful depending on your map and you can easily cut down more, the agreement price is based on your relationship to them, i have always found mine to be about +400% at game start but of course this depends on your relationship to them, that's affected hugely by your race and theirs, if your garthimi for example and you want a relationship with your dondorian neighbours then good luck, your dirty disgusting filthy stinking insects to them and they hate you.

i usually play as humans, humans are generally neutral to all other races.

[Slippy]

Originally posted by robtock216:

, the agreement price is based on your relationship to them, i have always found mine to be about +400% at game start but of course this depends on your relationship to them

400%? Ive been playing as humans and i have never see anything over 105% let alone 400%!

I tested shipping all my goods (and I mean everything) over as a gift and it did nothing. Sure I didnt have a lot but it didnt change opinion at all.

[robtock216]

Maybe i have a title you don't i'm not sure but the game always generates one city near you that is friendly and will trade for a modest donation, mine always seem to have around 400% relationship.
agreeing to gift requests increases your relationship
accepting gifts decreases your relationship (which is a bit weird)

as i say all you can do is send a load of stuff as a gift, rinse and repeat whenever you can spare stuff until they want your babies, the box tells you down the bottom how much your relationship should increase by from the gift.
If it isn't increasing then id suggest joining the discord and reporting it as a bug.

[Slippy]

Could have just been a weird start up for my first city, every single other test I have done has had the starting neighbour having a much more reasonable trade agreement price.

[Exterminatus]

You can barter for now - its not as efficient but its enough for early game - you'll get to 300k money numbers by midgame

[TPark]

Originally posted by Exterminatus:

You can barter for now - its not as efficient but its enough for early game - you'll get to 300k money numbers by midgame

You can't barter without a trade agreement - unless that is a change from V65.

[robtock216]

Originally posted by TPark:

Originally posted by Exterminatus:

You can barter for now - its not as efficient but its enough for early game - you'll get to 300k money numbers by midgame

You can't barter without a trade agreement - unless that is a change from V65.

you have been able to demand/offer goods in the diplomacy screen for several updates now, V66 adds slaves to that system too