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Losing knowledge
Hi to all, suddenly i start to lose knowledge, i recive a message that my books are decaying, can't understand how to fix it
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ZOVA Jul 24, 2021 @ 9:17pm 
Originally posted by frill:
I asked this all the way back in v55. Apparently it's intended behavior. Was unable to get more than a single tech item back then. Still one of the biggest problem of this game, imo. Along with problems of population growth past a thousand people or so.
(from: https://steamcommunity.com/app/1162750/discussions/0/3056239973537104115/)
Last edited by ZOVA; Jul 24, 2021 @ 9:18pm
I.P.Loud Jul 24, 2021 @ 9:27pm 
You need to either build more libraries, or get the tech which makes librarians more efficient. Tech ain't cheap in this game. Same with administration.
Last edited by I.P.Loud; Jul 24, 2021 @ 9:28pm
NixBoxDone Jul 25, 2021 @ 6:34am 
You need more libraries or efficiency to produce AND maintain your knowledge.
Basically, knowledge has a finite cap based on your number and productivity of research.

Let's say that cap is 1000 because at 1000 you have exactly enough researchers to keep your knowledge stable.
If you ARE at that cap and then something happens to reduce your number or productivity of researchers, your knowledge is going to decline.
If the knowledge declining is free (as in you haven't yet spent it), that's fine. But knowledge that's invested can also decline (presumably simulating knowledge lost due to lacking interest or investment into the fine arts), disabling the research in question.

You either lost researchers, efficiency in one or more of your libraries or you're using up/producing less paper for your researchers to use.

Build another library or two and you should be aight. They'll retrieve the knowledge you lost and you can invest it into more science again.
maybe libraries conditions? i was noticing that i have few janitors, the building is not degradate but there are a lots of red squares
Gamatron  [developer] Jul 25, 2021 @ 11:09pm 
Originally posted by Happiest of the faces:
maybe libraries conditions? i was noticing that i have few janitors, the building is not degradate but there are a lots of red squares

knowledge is lost each second. It's regained by researchers in the library. So one needs to keep the librarians working constantly in order to keep the knowledge. Lack of library workers, or degrade within the library, or lack of paper could ruin it.
The Disco Jedi Jul 30, 2021 @ 5:54pm 
It seems like the rate of knowledge decay is very high. Also: Do the knowledge efficiency upgrades also contribute to the rate of loss? If so does that make it less effective?
Last edited by The Disco Jedi; Jul 30, 2021 @ 6:30pm
Gamatron  [developer] Jul 30, 2021 @ 10:43pm 
Originally posted by The Disco Jedi:
It seems like the rate of knowledge decay is very high. Also: Do the knowledge efficiency upgrades also contribute to the rate of loss? If so does that make it less effective?

Knowledge degrade is a static % per year. A researcher with paper is creating X amount of knowledge per year. I've balanced these numbers so that the natural balance occurs at 100 knowledge per person, although this seems a bit off, so in reality it's about 60. With tech, you increase the 'X', so there will be more and faster knowledge production. So there are no drawbacks from increasing knowledge technologies, or other techs. For stable knowledge, set a high priority for libraries and paper production, and keep 100 knowledge as a buffer.
NixBoxDone Jul 31, 2021 @ 4:13am 
Though I'd like to point out that taking the knowledge techs is pretty much wasted when you're still a small town - you don't have enough researchers to make a 2 % increase in knowledge per researcher worth the actual research you bind up to obtain it.

If you're still at the stage where you're struggling with unlocking things like gemstone mining, you're better off just stacking more libraries and researchers.
lugh Oct 8, 2022 @ 9:37pm 
a 1,000 cap? i can't even get past 21. no tech for charcoal and metal production, let alone libraries.
FatBoySlim Oct 26, 2022 @ 5:12am 
That's me in the corner
That's me in the spotlight
Losing my knowledge :steammocking:
NeoRobotnic87 Apr 25, 2024 @ 12:19am 
So what happen if I haven't unlocked the library yet? So far the research points just keep going down without solution
Last edited by NeoRobotnic87; Apr 25, 2024 @ 12:21am
Malorn Apr 25, 2024 @ 7:56am 
Originally posted by NeoRobotnic87:
So what happen if I haven't unlocked the library yet? So far the research points just keep going down without solution

Then something happened with your researchers. Knowledge is a capacity, and libraries act as a multiplier.
robtock216 Apr 25, 2024 @ 8:56am 
this is a very old thread, the system was completely changed, it used to rely on the library and your people "forgot" knowledge if you lost workers to maintain what you were using.

It doesn't anymore the library just multiplies lab output.
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Date Posted: Jul 24, 2021 @ 6:31pm
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