What do you think the best gang to work for is? (bobo, the yakuza, or the mafia)

[Fanfiction aficionado 4000]

Personally I feel that Bobo offers the best benefits, that double decker sandwich costs the same as a meal kit, fills you up just as effectively, and you don't even need to waste time preparing it!

[Asmodan]

Imho no matter what path you choose, Bobo is always a way you should take. Bobo is also the work you can do daytime which means you can always do Bobo and one of the other. Stamina is important for any build and the Food is the best.

[Curiousfellow]

The double boba is great, but if you do neurotraining slime punching will cut into your gym time. The maffia pay better than anyone else but they're no good on an agility build. Still, you can both slime punch and work for another gang until you get your second promotion.

Originally posted by Fanfiction aficionado 4000:

Personally I feel that Bobo offers the best benefits, that double decker sandwich costs the same as a meal kit, fills you up just as effectively, and you don't even need to waste time preparing it!

(The meal kit still gets you more food for your money, the double boba costs more and fills less. I switched back to meal kits for this reason when I had to put all my money towards fights.)

[Fringehunter7719]

Originally posted by Curiousfellow:

The maffia pay better than anyone else but they're no good on an agility build.

It also takes slightly longer to complete their job.

Originally posted by Curiousfellow:

(The meal kit still gets you more food for your money, the double boba costs more and fills less.

The cooking kit removes 1.5 hours from the time you can spend working. You can earn several times more money in 1.5 hours than you can save by using cooking kits.

Slime lunches are a better option early game, and from mid game onwards sandwiches and double bobos are much, much better, because the amount you can earn per hour (both money and training progress) increases from a start of about $7 to about $55 by the end of the game.

[Curiousfellow]

Originally posted by Fringehunter7719:

Originally posted by Curiousfellow:

The maffia pay better than anyone else but they're no good on an agility build.

It also takes slightly longer to complete their job.

Hmm. I haven't timed them. Are you sure you're not comparing normal maffia to bobo with software?

Originally posted by Fringehunter7719:

Slime lunches are a better option early game, and from mid game onwards sandwiches and double bobos are much, much better, because the amount you can earn per hour (both money and training progress) increases from a start of about $7 to about $55 by the end of the game.

You only have a limited time during which you can teach at the gym or work as a policeman. Once you're locked out of working the gang jobs, there is a hard cap on the amount of money you can earn. Unless you really need the time to train, healthy meals will leave you with more money to spend on challenging league opponents.

[Fringehunter7719]

Originally posted by Curiousfellow:

Originally posted by Fringehunter7719:

It also takes slightly longer to complete their job.

Hmm. I haven't timed them. Are you sure you're not comparing normal maffia to bobo with software?

Yep. Though the Yakuza is the one with the major difference - you can complete three full shifts in 12hrs, you can't do that with the other two.

Originally posted by Curiousfellow:

You only have a limited time during which you can teach at the gym or work as a policeman. Once you're locked out of working the gang jobs, there is a hard cap on the amount of money you can earn. Unless you really need the time to train, healthy meals will leave you with more money to spend on challenging league opponents.

Even restricting yourself to only considering chapter 3 you earn more than you spend on that anyway, assuming you want to fight everyone at least once, or you want to complete your police/gym job before finishing the game*. In other chapters and situations the case is open and shut - cooking kits are much, much worse.

In that situation the best food options are still space pizza and panzerotti. Using cooking kits instead of slime sandwiches (with movie perk) saves about $7 per day at the cost of about 3 hours (assuming you use 90 hunger per day, which varies with how much sleeping and training you do, and of what types), which is just never worth it in reality, you can't afford extra challenges with that.

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*And if you don't, then you can just deliberately not pick a side and continue working any jobs you like anyway.

Alternatively there's always the option of spending one of your league fights on earning money instead of progressing up, which nets you something like $1,000 and solves all money problems instantly.

[Yo]

Originally posted by Fringehunter7719:

Yep. Though the Yakuza is the one with the major difference - you can complete three full shifts in 12hrs, you can't do that with the other two.

Don't they all work the same? Would make the most sense to me

[r.wardy]

Originally posted by Yo:

Originally posted by Fringehunter7719:

Yep. Though the Yakuza is the one with the major difference - you can complete three full shifts in 12hrs, you can't do that with the other two.

Don't they all work the same? Would make the most sense to me

No, they don't. Fringehunter already did the math in an older thread, which is so extensive, i just copied it. There is really nothing to add to this.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1161590/discussions/0/3802777561344733119/

Originally posted by Fringehunter7719:

Interestingly the jobs don't seem to perform identically. Other than the obvious differences of which stat they reward (Mafia - Strength; Yakuza - Agility; Bobo - Endurance) and the opening times (Mafia - 20:00 -> 8:00; Yakuza 19:00 -> 07:00; Bobo 8:00 -> 20:00) they pay slightly different amounts and take different average lengths of time to complete.

Roughly speaking Yakuza is the best paying of the initial 3, rewarding $28 per 3hrs 40 of work, Mafia is second best paying $32 for per 4hrs 20 of work and Bobo comes last paying $29 per 4hrs 10 of work. This is with high rage (or morale or whatever it's called).

Mafia is also easier to get to, which makes the bus fare lower. Though that early game strength gain is painfully bad in terms of fight performance.

It's also interesting that at those pay rates of about $7 per hour, or a little more than $1 per 10 minutes the bus (which costs just under $1 per 10 minutes saved) is *always* superior to walking, even if you get the minor walk speed upgrade that's available early. As your pay goes up and your work efficiency too the gap grows, and the bus pass blows walking out of the water when it comes later and halves your costs.

It's also worth noting that the Slime Lunch set which gives 30 food for 15 minutes of prep time and $20 also seems to outperform the Cooking kit which gives 45 food for 90 minutes of prep time and $25. To get 90 food from both takes either $60 or $50, but the Slime Lunch saves 2hrs 15mins of time, which can be converted to about $17 when working for the Yakuza. To be fair there's probably a slight loss to additional stamina and hunger consumption while working the job, but that's small and hard to factor in and probably is less significant than the bonus str/agi/end you earn from spending more hours on the job.

Not too far down the line the Double Bobo seems to outperform both. And after a certain amount of upgrades the Slug Smoothie seems to outperform the cot for energy.

On fight days in the Silver league you can also get a free ride to the gym, which can be worth about $6 if you go from Bobo's (manually cancelled at 19:00 ideally) too.