Stat (str,agi,stam) software?

[Drok Bonechewer]

Is it worth it to get 2 stat software upgrades? So its +2 training for main stat and -1 for both others right? So if i get the agility one (+2 agi, -1 str, -1 stam) and the stamina one (+2 stam, -1 agi, -1 str) i should ideally have +1 agi, +1 stam, -2 str,??? is this right does everyone else do this?

[Fringehunter7719]

If you get one it sets that stat to a 1.5 training multiplier, and the other two to a 0.75 training multiplier.

If you get two it sets those two stats to a 1.25 multiplier each, and the other one to 0.75.

If you get three it sets them all to 1.25.

Two is the only choice that doesn't make sense (along with zero, once you get to that point in the game).

[Bahlsen]

Originally posted by Fringehunter7719:

If you get one it sets that stat to a 1.5 training multiplier, and the other two to a 0.75 training multiplier.

If you get two it sets those two stats to a 1.25 multiplier each, and the other one to 0.75.

If you get three it sets them all to 1.25.

Two is the only choice that doesn't make sense (along with zero, once you get to that point in the game).

Oh thanks for this.

[Yo]

This makes no sense what you said, your math is off

[Yo]

if 2x is 1.25, 3x will be less than that, it's just logic

[Drok Bonechewer]

Thank you for the numbers!

Generally you only build into 2 stats, one of them always being stam, so you really dont need all three.

But if those are the numbers then when you get all three wouldnt it just got to 1.0 each?
so getting all three would be the only choice that doesnt make sense?

Getting two agi+stam or str+stam and having them at 1.25 each while the other is .5?

[Fringehunter7719]

Originally posted by Drok Bonechewer:

But if those are the numbers then when you get all three wouldnt it just got to 1.0 each?

You would think so, but it doesn't work that way. I'd assume it is bugged currently.

Anyway, I've retested it and the results are weirder than what I got before. Having none and adding one gives it a +40% modifier and the other two -20%*, adding a second gives two of them +20% and the remaining one -20%, adding the third in gives them all +20%, which is the odd situation I described above.

However! If you have all three and then remove one, you now have two stats with +40% and one with -20%, which is, I think, what you were looking for. You can also delete two of the three and go to a situation where one has +40% and two are back at 0%.

None:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3010565854
One:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3010566002
Two:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3010566157
Three:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3010566299
Two again:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3010566533
One again:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3010567868

So, yes, not what you'd expect, but how it is for now at least!

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*This may be different than the +50% and -25% I got before due to having other modifiers that apply to training that I did not have, you'll have to check your own situation to be sure.

Or maybe I just misremembered, and the accurate figures are -20%, 0%, +20% or +40% accordingly instead of -25%, 0%, +25% or +50%.

[Fringehunter7719]

Analysing the logic, it looks like what happens is that each stat (Str, Agi, End) has two flags, one for +40% and one for -20% and each time you buy one of the boost programs it adds the +40% flag to that stat and the -20% flag to the other two stats.

If you assume the same flags are used for each program and thus duplicates of the same entry are ignored you get the results actually seen in game:
Start: Str +0%; Agi +0%; End +0%
Add Str: Str +40%; Agi -20%; End -20%
Add Agi: Str +40% -20%; Agi +40% - 20%; End -20%
Add End: Str +40% -20%; Agi +40% - 20%; End +40% -20%

Equally if you continue, assuming that deleting a program deletes the +40% flag from that stat and the -20% flags from the other stats:
Delete End: Str +40%; Agi +40%; End -20%
Delete Agi: Str +40%; Agi +0% ; End +0%
Delete Str: Str +0%; Agi +0%; End +0%

[Yo]

So the best is to add all three, then delete the one from the stat you don't want to train (str in case of agi build), this will leave you with +40% on the stats you do wanna train (agi & sta) and -20% on the stat you don't wanna train (str). Pretty abuseable.

The way it should work, is it shouldn't be a flag on/off for 40% and -20%, but rather a number that shows how many times it should be applied. So it should be like

Nothing: 100/100/100
Str only: 140/80/80
Str + Agi: 120/120/60
Str + Agi + Sta: 100/100/100

This is how it SHOULD work

[Curiousfellow]

Originally posted by Yo:

So the best is to add all three, then delete the one from the stat you don't want to train (str in case of agi build), this will leave you with +40% on the stats you do wanna train (agi & sta) and -20% on the stat you don't wanna train (str). Pretty abuseable.

While this is a way to get bonuses for the stats you want to train, the practicality of getting these also involves the cost of installing them. If you buy all three at once and remove one, that sets you back 225 dollars. Buying just the one for your main stat is going to be more economical unless it ends up saving you 150 dollars worth of money and time on your secondary.

[Yo]

Yeah at the start of the game $200 is a lot, but before you know it you'll be swimming in money. Halfway during chapter 2 and i have over 6000

[Blastaz]

Originally posted by Yo:

Yeah at the start of the game $200 is a lot, but before you know it you'll be swimming in money. Halfway during chapter 2 and i have over 6000

Income drops right back in Chapter 3, you spend a fortune if you want to jump up the league, and there is some really expensive gym equipment to buy.

[Curiousfellow]

Originally posted by Blastaz:

Originally posted by Yo:

Yeah at the start of the game $200 is a lot, but before you know it you'll be swimming in money. Halfway during chapter 2 and i have over 6000

Income drops right back in Chapter 3, you spend a fortune if you want to jump up the league, and there is some really expensive gym equipment to buy.

Even on the police route, where you don't have to buy gym equipment and you end up getting free gpp from work(making matches cheaper), I still found myself switching from neurotrainings and double bobas to the police gym and healthy meals, just to have more money for matches. Money is only really plentiful when pause your progression for it.