Can't brake at all without doing an endo?

[Methuselah]

Started a new career/team on the KTM and I'm at the Sepang tests and every single time I try to brake going into the first corner (or any fast corner) I just endo the moment I put on the front brakes.

I have 100's of hours on every MotoGP going back to 2013 and always play with pro physics on hard and have never had any issues.

The game is utterly worthless to me at this point. I have to engine brake down several gears before I can even consider touching the brakes.

Anyone have any insight?

[Oregano Gangsta]

Endo as in you end up doing a stoppie?

If its a stoppie I'm guessing you may be on the moto2 bikes (I just find its very easy to stoppie using them) - you can do a bunch of things to help reduce a stoppie
You can try leaning back (ingame of course lol) while braking, feather the front brakes more and/or try using a smaller brake disc (under tuning) as well reducing the front pre-load of your bike (also under tuning)

Theres a bunch of other tunings you can do to help but the only one I'm really confident will help is reducing your front pre-load [/quote]

[Methuselah]

Originally posted by Oregano Gangsta:

Endo as in you end up doing a stoppie?

If its a stoppie I'm guessing you may be on the moto2 bikes (I just find its very easy to stoppie using them) - you can do a bunch of things to help reduce a stoppie
You can try leaning back (ingame of course lol) while braking, feather the front brakes more and/or try using a smaller brake disc (under tuning) as well reducing the front pre-load of your bike (also under tuning)

Theres a bunch of other tunings you can do to help but the only one I'm really confident will help is reducing your front pre-load

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I'm on the KTM in MotoGP but I'll give that a shot. Kind of wild they changed the braking this much between versions. I may be permanently on GP19, I'm almost 50 and not really interested in re-learning the entire control system lol.

Seems kind of crazy to me that between GP19 and 20 I win every race on hard on pro physics up to about 100% AI difficulty and I change versions and crash every single time I brake in the first corner. How the hell do they change it that much? Crazy. Sorry just venting but that's pretty frustrating.

[Methuselah]

Ah now I see many other threads complaining about the same crap. I guess it never got updated. Too bad, this is unplayable. I can't touch the front brake at all without flipping the bike end over end.

[Methuselah]

Anyone know if Steam still offers the refund under a certain amount of time played? Not going to deal with this garbage on 21.

[Mic451]

If you can't play is your problem. The brake system is very realistic this year, is not "garbage" as you said. Because on 19 was easy, you can do 100% brake without lifting up the rear wheel. But, just for you know, in real life riders never go too much on the brakes. Because if they do, guess what, the rear lift up, like in the game. One problem of this community (MotoGP community) are people like you that pretend from Milestone a game that allows them to play only at pro physic and 120% AI without problem, and refuse to turn the physics down to normal or assisted. And who got damaged? People that enjoy really those improvements on the game. Thats exactly the end of Ride 4: people complained about the difficulty of the physics, and then Milestone downgraded it, with the result that all people that were enjoying the game now are complaining

[Friteuse]

Honestly I don't understand why people complain so much. It is difficult, it's hard, understanding how the bike works, how it accelerates, how it brakes, finding the limits and handling it at your own way (and in a good way) make this game difficult. You can't learn how to drive properly - especially the MotoGP category - in only a few hours. it takes a lot of time. But what else do you want ? If the game was arcade, people would complain about it being too easy, too arcade. It is realistic, it is hard. If you want to give up after a few attempts, maybe gaming isn't for you after all. Or maybe you just prefer fast food arcade gaming. But don't say this game is garbage. You are just not into the hardcore learning.
And yes, maybe you are used to the old system, but you are human, you adapt yourself. Don't give up like that and don't spit on something actually challenging and advanced.

[Ohayoghurt]

It's something you can adjust your braking style for if you give yourself time, but for now it sounds like you're better off biting the 'arcade' bullet, dropping down to normal physics so you can turn joint brakes on.

That will make the weight transfer to the front less violent, though you may still have to feather the brakes a bit in harder (especially downhill) stopping zones.

[bulburbank]

just use the engine brake properly lmao

[martin77]

make a good setup than you can do almost everything on track and have a stable bike

[taomatrix72]

why people always want that the realistic physics should be changed, when there is a easy option. i can deal with the physics in 20 much better than in 19, because i understand what the bike is doing. i play other games always on easy or normal. i never came on the idea to say make hard or very hard easier for me.
in ride 4 milestone change the physics because people crying and now only the superbikes are a challenge and other bikes driving on rails even a 220 hp naked ducati.

[Methuselah]

Originally posted by JayOTT:

It's something you can adjust your braking style for if you give yourself time, but for now it sounds like you're better off biting the 'arcade' bullet, dropping down to normal physics so you can turn joint brakes on.

That will make the weight transfer to the front less violent, though you may still have to feather the brakes a bit in harder (especially downhill) stopping zones.

I just uninstalled and went back to 19. Every prior version brakes essentially the same until 20. Complete rewrite and I'm not interested in spending the time it takes to relearn it nor am I interested in having the computer do all the riding for me. Milestone lost my steady 60 bucks a year. Never again.

[Friteuse]

So instead of trying to understand this new braking system, and trying to adapt, you give up... Well, good if you feel better, but not the best mentality. A shame that most people react this way, that doesn't push developpers to make their games more realistic and challenging...