Grim Clicker

Grim Clicker

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Rachel Dawn Amber 2020 年 5 月 19 日 上午 2:44
Dex is just too good ? Didn't feel like STR or WIS is anywhere near DEX's power
isn't abilities in DEX way too powerful than STR and WIS. STR/WIS abilities are like trash tbh.
no advantage on any aspect
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rob_s_cat2 2020 年 5 月 19 日 上午 3:10 
dex on its own is useless. in fact, any single tree on its own isn't optimal. aim for flexibility, and (try to) keep your options open. if you can fit more multipliers in for the same number of skill polints, chances are your build will be stronger for it.

i personally use all three trees all the time and i can often single rebirth shards until resist.
wulfster42 2020 年 5 月 21 日 上午 9:34 
Str over all adds more long term than dex, but it takes awhile to get there, also str has the advantage of auto-kill, while dex/crits require you to stop before kiling.

Str has the following good skills that add significantly to damage and all don't require a crit.

Rage/March/Blacksmith/Chain/indominable (or whatever the last skill is).

Dex has only 2 skills that flat out add to damage. Fingers and the last skill that boosts base weapon damage (but only really works for low base weapons..and doubles damage only.

Dex does have crit bonus skills though which are significant. Ambush allows for 100% crit chance, and on target is the same kinda multiplier as indomitable but only for crits.

That is significantly less damage though especially when you consider that strength itself adds a damage multiplier as well.

Still you should always have fingers from dex on top of the strength multies in any strength based build, and also enchant from wisdom for both.

So all 3 trees are useful, although I use wisdom tree WAY less personally.
rob_s_cat2 2020 年 5 月 21 日 下午 3:43 
yeah, it really depends where you are how good wisdom is.

think of it like this: in terms of raw damage output, strength is the best for single target, while wisdom is the best for aoe and burst damage. dex is fast, which is a good thing too, but as damage goes it's less than the other two, and makes up for this with its click based speed. this is also why way down the track wind mask falls off.
JayXan 2020 年 5 月 22 日 上午 11:57 
the fact that souls all add to the dex tree make dex op
theshadowcult 2020 年 5 月 22 日 下午 1:14 
How do you guys keep your energy up when using march and rage and amplification?
I Like Guppy 2020 年 5 月 22 日 下午 1:42 
引用自 theshadowcult
How do you guys keep your energy up when using march and rage and amplification?

you can use sun seal, you can dump alot of wasted points into photosynthesis, you could use rough click in dex tree
wulfster42 2020 年 5 月 22 日 下午 2:19 
Rough click is the general answer if you want all 3. Sun soul could work but probably still requires more points to make effective than rough arrows...and your using a seal (which could give you those points and more).

Rough arrows is very easy to get, especially if you have a lightning (or any non-heavy weapon with +energy/mana per kill)....with 2 skulls in it.

With that you have +3 to dex total (with the bonus from wind mask). Which means you only need to get up to on target naturally (before taking wind mask).

With +skills per level and a decent flame multiplier, you can do that right away (before or by level 10), and then quickly toss a point or a few points into rage, and at least 1 into march.

You want to start march asap so the multiplier keeps ticking. You don't need the Bull boost to march until later because it's just a multiplier (by whatever the tick is currently at).

If your low on skill points, you can just rush for rough arrows and march asap, then get up to blacksmith (hopefully you have the warriors seal for 5 strength discount so it's super cheap/easy).

If you have 2 items with 3 skulls in em, you can use those to get bull for free at that point, but it's REALLY cheap still because of your discount, so it's best to hold off on those, and eventually get up to the last strength skill with them

Rage + march + bulls multiplier + rough arrows + 10 enchant + fingers = tons of base pure strength damage (no crits), so you can just rush through stuff at full speed (With wind mask going auto-click full time). For bosses if they don't instantly die, just use poison soul a bit to up the damage.

Harder shards, you can early on grab ambush (20 points) and 1/10 in firefly skills along with 20 points in on target for a high crit multiplier that lands 100% of the time. That is less total skill points needed than getting to the final strength skill even with the discount, and it's a significantly larger multiplier (especially if you have a dex ring equiped as well).
theshadowcult 2020 年 5 月 22 日 下午 3:43 
thanks guys
rob_s_cat2 2020 年 5 月 22 日 下午 10:18 
引用自 JayXan
the fact that souls all add to the dex tree make dex op

souls add to BASE values. that is, because it multiplies and so does everything else, it doesn't matter whether you add souls before or after in the formula, but they definitely affect everything except no weapon critting (there isn't one for some reason). wind mask just makes it more pronounced until you hit the hard speed cap. in fact, from where i am, it's literally foreseeable for wind mask to eventually become nothing more than +2 dex.

damage-wise, dex is literally the weakest of the three trees. even poison considered. dex on its own, as i wrote earlier, is useless.
最後修改者:rob_s_cat2; 2020 年 5 月 22 日 下午 10:19
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