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Weirfish Jan 2, 2021 @ 3:07pm
Wind King Mask
Wind King Mask gives you +2 Dex but doesn't discount purchases. This means that you always want to take Wind King Mask (if you're going to) as late as possible, but this can mess with your progression.

For example, if you want to get your Dex to 17 and you take Wind King Mask at 8, you need to spend 134 points on your Dex. If you take Wind King Mask at 15 instead, you need to spend 120, freeing up 14 points to spend on those tasty, tasty poison skills.

This is pretty hostile design, as this isn't super obvious to the player. It could be solved by the mask giving an equivalent discount. If this is too powerful, the option exists to reduce the Soul Bar speed bonus.
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It is not hostile design. It just encourages the player to plan ahead. A very small price to pay for the powerful effects this mask gives.
1 Jan 2, 2021 @ 3:23pm 
I can pretty much agree with this. It is useful to plan ahead and I believe that a mindful player should be rewarded more. However I do understand your concerns or however you may want to call them. In my opinion it is fine as is if you have enough SP per levelup/are far enough into the game.
attila37 Jan 2, 2021 @ 3:36pm 
i would say fate shard is hostile, or w/e the name is which gives you a rnd mask at start
1 Jan 2, 2021 @ 3:46pm 
You can actually adjust around the random mask or simply restart with a few of usurpation potion resets if you grab the first 3 or 4 levels of the free skip. I find it a nice mixup to the otherwise often repetitive buildstrats. I did really not like it at first either tho.
rob_s_cat2 Jan 2, 2021 @ 6:29pm 
i'm not understanding. poison skills? what's wrong with the poison soul if you want poison? wouldn't that mean the quicker you take the wind mask, the better, because more free layers of poison without spending ANY sp?
Weirfish Jan 2, 2021 @ 8:18pm 
Originally posted by Anomandaris Dragnipurake:
It is not hostile design. It just encourages the player to plan ahead. A very small price to pay for the powerful effects this mask gives.

I would agree, *if it was clear what the effect was*. As it is, it is not. My understanding is that the dev is Russian, so maybe this is a consequence of bad localisation, but something as simple as "+2 to Dexterity" doesn't imply, to me, that I need to be careful when I take the thing.

Originally posted by Brookz.:
I can pretty much agree with this. It is useful to plan ahead and I believe that a mindful player should be rewarded more. However I do understand your concerns or however you may want to call them. In my opinion it is fine as is if you have enough SP per levelup/are far enough into the game.

Agreed, a mindful player should be rewarded, but as above, a player should also be able to make an informed decision. Also, you shouldn't really balance around endgame only; people who bounce off the early game because of bad signposting like this won't make it that far. Also also, getting SP/levelup when playing F2P is pretty slow.

Originally posted by rob_s_cat2:
i'm not understanding. poison skills? what's wrong with the poison soul if you want poison? wouldn't that mean the quicker you take the wind mask, the better, because more free layers of poison without spending ANY sp?

There's a poison soul?
phenir Jan 2, 2021 @ 10:45pm 
Originally posted by Weirfish:

I would agree, *if it was clear what the effect was*. As it is, it is not. My understanding is that the dev is Russian, so maybe this is a consequence of bad localisation, but something as simple as "+2 to Dexterity" doesn't imply, to me, that I need to be careful when I take the thing.

There's a poison soul?
The effect is pretty clear to me. It increases your dex by two and everything that comes with that, including increasing the cost of getting more dex. This applies to all effects that increase a stat.
Poison is one of the syllables of the serpent constellation. It gives you a soul menu option called poison soul. When it fills up, the enemy in front of you gets 10% poison. The base speed of it is 5%.
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Date Posted: Jan 2, 2021 @ 3:07pm
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