blackhole/singularity

[tenser]

can someone explain those? are you supposed to go there after you do all shards in a galaxy? what are the benefits?

[Xandor]

Blackhole is just to leave the galaxy and enter a new one.
You lose everything except items, unlocked item slots, shards and shard bonuses.
The things you lose include: Revelation (the knowledge thing that can be bough for shards), candle multiplier and everything you lose when going to a different world shard.

You gain 1 Singularity Point. It has no use now (not implemented, it says that it will be used to get permanent bonuses).

The next galaxy has more world shards in it and first world shard in second galaxy is as easy as first world shard in first galaxy.

[tenser]

What are those runes? I saw like some runes to choose from somewhere in space. But it didn't say what they do. Should I just do all shards to area 40, and then next shard? can I stay after area 40 and grind?

[a31031998]

Originally posted by tenser:

What are those runes? I saw like some runes to choose from somewhere in space. But it didn't say what they do. Should I just do all shards to area 40, and then next shard? can I stay after area 40 and grind?

You can return to the previous shard, but you will lose all black wax upgrade. You can do it if you want to improve your flame multiplier.

[Saitama]

Maybe im the only one but i absolutely hate those multi prestige layer games that force reset your progress all the time. I only enjoy grinding stuff for as long as I know that ill get some permanent gains from it. Now that I know that candle power is only useful to get to the next blackhole where everything resets, i kinda lost my motivation.

[a31031998]

Originally posted by Vaynard:

Maybe im the only one but i absolutely hate those multi prestige layer games that force reset your progress all the time. I only enjoy grinding stuff for as long as I know that ill get some permanent gains from it. Now that I know that candle power is only useful to get to the next blackhole where everything resets, i kinda lost my motivation.

You gonna receive living chest which worth 350 shard after leave the first galaxy as well

[Lucky Thirteen]

Originally posted by Vaynard:

Maybe im the only one but i absolutely hate those multi prestige layer games that force reset your progress all the time. I only enjoy grinding stuff for as long as I know that ill get some permanent gains from it. Now that I know that candle power is only useful to get to the next blackhole where everything resets, i kinda lost my motivation.

Agreed, this is idiotic tbh. What's the point when you are getting weaker as you progress instead of getting stronger. Just beaten the first shard and entered a new one, enemies have more HP but I'm not any stronger since I lost my wax bonuses? I'm sorry, that's just a waste of time.

[Angela™]

Originally posted by Lucky Thirteen:

Originally posted by Vaynard:

Maybe im the only one but i absolutely hate those multi prestige layer games that force reset your progress all the time. I only enjoy grinding stuff for as long as I know that ill get some permanent gains from it. Now that I know that candle power is only useful to get to the next blackhole where everything resets, i kinda lost my motivation.

Agreed, this is idiotic tbh. What's the point when you are getting weaker as you progress instead of getting stronger. Just beaten the first shard and entered a new one, enemies have more HP but I'm not any stronger since I lost my wax bonuses? I'm sorry, that's just a waste of time.

It's the cost of progress. If this sort of progress isn't up to your liking, then this isn't for you i'm afraid.

As it stands, the two main forms of permanent progress are shard upgrades and singularity points when they get added, and all both of those do is enable you to get more progress.

As for enemies having more HP, that's where you use boss soul actives. Spawn rubies to help with weapon upgrades or start building damage / crit rate if you can already.

[Dav_X_Little]

Singularity is not implemented yet (and you still have to beat the whole galaxy first) and Shard upgrade are very costly while shard gain is very slow. So both of your argument are... meh.... not very well though
While I do enjoy the challenge, I understand what they are saying.

It would be a totaly different feeling if Shard 2 was on the same difficulty than shard 1 but with 10 or 20 additional area with steep increase on difficulty for those level. You would actually feel like your "hero" increased in power compared to the previous shard and you are going further because of that.

By leaving it the same number of area but increasing the HP of monster per X while not increasing your hero starting potential..... you are making the start of a new shard slow, tedious and unfun...

Shard 5 starting monster have over 360 HP. To gain your first level... you have to hit them for basicly 30 minutes..... My first ritual was after 2 hours of play..... that's not fun at all... I'm starting to enjoy Shard 5 after 5 hours of grinding.... I had no other Idle or Clicker game like that....

I'm still not giving up on that game because I love a lot of aspect of it, but a lot of the bad aspect of them game are very present....

[molotov235]

The flame upgrade was restored for me after beating 1st shard in 2nd galaxy, didn't seem like that was intended. Thought* you were meant to lose all flame for gaining the singularity point.

[Hex: Onii-Chan]

Originally posted by Vivian™ ᚲᛃᚱᛁᛖᛚ᛭:

Originally posted by Lucky Thirteen:

Agreed, this is idiotic tbh. What's the point when you are getting weaker as you progress instead of getting stronger. Just beaten the first shard and entered a new one, enemies have more HP but I'm not any stronger since I lost my wax bonuses? I'm sorry, that's just a waste of time.

It's the cost of progress. If this sort of progress isn't up to your liking, then this isn't for you i'm afraid.

As it stands, the two main forms of permanent progress are shard upgrades and singularity points when they get added, and all both of those do is enable you to get more progress.

As for enemies having more HP, that's where you use boss soul actives. Spawn rubies to help with weapon upgrades or start building damage / crit rate if you can already.

Hey, we've reached the first of the holy trinity of fanboy arguments - "If you don't like it, just don't play it."

Every clicker out there is based around exponential growth and resets make you grow faster. Here it's the opposite - resets make you grow slower. It doesn't feel good to complete a shard, if you just get everything taken away.

[Angela™]

Originally posted by Hex: Onii-Chan:

void argument

Early access, and yeah it's really easy. If you don't like it, don't play it.

Don't try to ruin it for the people that do like it as well.
Kthnxbai. good luck on the way out.

[Dav_X_Little]

Originally posted by Vivian™ ᚲᛃᚱᛁᛖᛚ᛭:

Originally posted by Hex: Onii-Chan:

void argument

Early access, and yeah it's really easy. If you don't like it, don't play it.

Don't try to ruin it for the people that do like it as well.
Kthnxbai. good luck on the way out.

So, if we all do what you are suggesting. Than the game will be left with only 10 player max as you are clearly a minority of player who enjoy it in the state it is in.

Guess you don't understand yourself what an early access game is supposed to mean. And you shouting those two word left and right like it's the ultimate defence just make you look stupid.

We could say the same thing to you. If you don't like us discussing monetization. Just leave the topic.

[Angela™]

Originally posted by Little_X_Dav:

Originally posted by Vivian™ ᚲᛃᚱᛁᛖᛚ᛭:

Early access, and yeah it's really easy. If you don't like it, don't play it.

Don't try to ruin it for the people that do like it as well.
Kthnxbai. good luck on the way out.

So, if we all do what you are suggesting. Than the game will be left with only 10 player max as you are clearly a minority of player who enjoy it in the state it is in.

Guess you don't understand yourself what an early access game is supposed to mean. And you shouting those two word left and right like it's the ultimate defence just make you look stupid.

We could say the same thing to you. If you don't like us discussing monetization. Just leave the topic.

Not at all what i meant, but good guess at least.

The point being that if you complain right now about the pricing / amount of shards gotten for free, then you're just going to continue this until later on when things get changed.

What that leads to is every person browsing this game's discussion seeing "the game's unfair because X" without context, which results in people downright dropping this game, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, etc.

Save those concerns for when they're actually relevant, like when the game comes out in 1.0 and things are still abysmal. You're all welcome to ignore this and continue a rather pointless back and forth about a thing that's fluid at this time.

Also, don't defend some toddler using buzzwords because it doesn't understand the big words in people's posts :)

[Hex: Onii-Chan]

Originally posted by Vivian™ ᚲᛃᚱᛁᛖᛚ᛭:

Originally posted by Hex: Onii-Chan:

void argument

Early access, and yeah it's really easy. If you don't like it, don't play it.

Don't try to ruin it for the people that do like it as well.
Kthnxbai. good luck on the way out.

Nah, and I can tell you why. It's the holy trinity for a reason:

1. "If you don't like it, don't play it"
2. "You aren't a dev, you don't know ♥♥♥♥"
3. "If you are so smart, make one yourself"

These three can be used against literally any complaint, critique or issue, from crashing at start, to predatory MTX.

It's a fanboy argument when they run out of everything else. And you know how we know that you are a fanboy? All you are doing is telling us how great it is that this game does everything worse than any other modern clicker.

[Dav_X_Little]

Originally posted by Vivian™ ᚲᛃᚱᛁᛖᛚ᛭:

Not at all what i meant, but good guess at least.

The point being that if you complain right now about the pricing / amount of shards gotten for free, then you're just going to continue this until later on when things get changed.

What that leads to is every person browsing this game's discussion seeing "the game's unfair because X" without context, which results in people downright dropping this game, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, etc.

Save those concerns for when they're actually relevant, like when the game comes out in 1.0 and things are still abysmal. You're all welcome to ignore this and continue a rather pointless back and forth about a thing that's fluid at this time.

Also, don't defend some toddler using buzzwords because it doesn't understand the big words in people's posts :)

Part of an EA is to demonstrate the vision of the game that the developer has in regard to every aspect of it. Sure it's an EA. Game is not finished yet. And their is more content coming. But it is also not at stage ALPHA or BETA....

In regard to what are available to us, it's easy for a lot of us to see fundamental flaw in design. And is not some little bonus coming in when players progress through half the game that will solve those fondamental flaw in design.
You first need to correct those and then build content from it. If you do the opposite... You are bringing yourself in a corner that you can't leave anymore.

Then... You say we have a negative effect on potential player that are browsing the discussion? They deserve to know what the game is in it's current state. And do not fear... If the game get balanced and fair to the player. A lot of us who complained will be happy to give it a positive review.

Now... Please stop being a fan boy and be objective. Because I am starting seriously to question your ability to think.