Not liking the structure so far

[swfc_dan]

As we all know PW cases usually always have investigation section/s and court section/s in each case. Here so far:
1st case. Purely trial
2nd case. Purely investigation
3rd case. Am part way through the trial but it appears like trial only here.

I was open to a different formula to some extent but this one doesn't work for me. Is this the new formula throughout now, to alternate between them?

I always liked having different elements to each case as a change of pace. This way looks like a bad bad idea and I'm already finding cases starting to drag, as they clearly need to make the cases as bloated and long as possible to fill out instead.

Sometimes the original way is still the best. PW was mega popular for a reason!

[LE_MALEM]

So you are judging a game from only 3 cases?! Very poor judgement of your part: Both games are interlinked despite being slow-paced! Consider the first game the beginning of the second one and the second one having the answers to the first one. You have to play both to understand everything. This is an interlinked story with related events, not seperate cases like the original PW (It's true that some cases are linked in PW, especially 3, but not ALL OF THEM were like in this game)
I repeat: ALL of the cases are linked; there is no case that is a singular story on its own. So yeah, you have to play this game as if you were reading a Sherlock Holmes novel hence where the inspiration of Shu Takumi came from.

[KapiRisk]

Dont worry they dont do that anymore for episode 4 and 5, i cant say for sure about the second game though as im not that far yet

[LE_MALEM]

Originally posted by Speed King:

Dont worry they dont do that anymore for episode 4 and 5, i cant say for sure about the second game though as im not that far yet

I can cerify they don't do that for the second game either so don't worry.

[Jcsonic]

Pretty much chapters 1 2 and 3 are tutorials
Chapter 1 shows a normal trial and the importance of checking your evidence as soon as you get it since it could either update or have new evidence entirely, as well as a few mechanics that are similar to the professor layton vs phoenix wright game.

Chapter 2 shows the dance of deduction from Herlock Sholmes and how it works, while also giving the player room to experiment and experience the investigation side of every chapter.

And Chapter 3 Teaches the player the new jury pitting feature and a more complex trial.

All of these elements are there to give the player all the tools they need to experience all of these mechanics at once through each chapter, you may say that it's pretty much half the game that it takes to show you all of this but you have to recall that this series heavily requires you to play both games if you want to get the full experience.

[Narmy]

There have always been purely trial cases in the originals though. The third game even had two of them.

[JP32]

Dont worry, cases 4&5 has full investigations and trial parts, and in the sequel the first case is trial only, which is one of the better starting cases and doesn't have any unnecessary tutorials, just some quick reminders. And then rest is full cases(Im only upto case 3 though).

And this is nothing compared to the first game, that had literal filter and three day cases that went on longer than necessary, like the steel samurai case, 1-3 has some pointless filter, and they could have shrunk down 1-4 down to two days easily. And dont get me started on the 1-5.

[Lieutenant Lawn-Darts]

Originally posted by LE_MALEM:

So you are judging a game from only 3 cases?! Very poor judgement of your part: Both games are interlinked despite being slow-paced!

In OP's defense, DGS1 was originally released as just the first 5 cases, so "only" 3 cases is over half of the first game. The pacing of DGS1 is pretty weird to go into without understanding just how much the two games are the same story (I've heard it said that it's better to go in thinking of it as one 10-case game even before they were bundled here), so it's not unreasonable to be concerned after playing through the first few cases.

[nit3mar30]

Ya, if this was the game that i brought back then, i be worried on the length of the first 3 case.

3/5 are tutorial? that's a pretty terrible pacing if you asked me.

[LaChouette]

While they are a tutorial, they are quite longer than the usual tutorial cases, and are a fairly good read. Although it does feel weird having a tutorial about something in case 1 that you won't reuse until case 3, or a tutorial in case 2 about something you won't reuse until case 4.

[201]

I have to agree. I finished the first game recently, and I think it must be the worst-paced game in the entire series. So many of the things that the player has to solve in court feel like filler; just there to advance the trial, but not exciting or clever in the slightest.

I'm halfway through the second case of the second game, and thankfully I can say that the story and pacing are much tighter so far.

[GuineaPrince]

The first game does in fact have 3 cases that are tutorial for a given mechanic, one full trial, and one full end trial.

I've just completed the first trial of the second game and it's so much more brisk than in the first one. So my expectation is "first game is tutorial for half of it, and introduces you to the characters and overarching plot hints for this spin-off series; second game assumes you've played the first, thus can give a more typical Ace Attorney pacing and complete the overarching plot".

So it might help to consider the first game as one half of a pair, rather than to take it on its own. It seems to hold that function.