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cyanoodle Apr 22 @ 4:10am
Constant Crashing
game never crashed on my old rig but constantly crashes every 5-10 minutes on my new pc.
Old Rig - Windows 10 I7-9700k RTX3080 32gb ddr4
New Rig - Windows 11 Ryzen 7 9800x3d RTX5080 32gb ddr5
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cyanoodle Apr 22 @ 4:11am 
Also I have no mods installed.
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Sol Apr 22 @ 9:25am 
Is Win11 crypto mining in the background while you're trying to play?
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cyanoodle Apr 22 @ 4:18pm 
Yeah w11 blows :feeling:
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jpcerutti Apr 22 @ 4:46pm 
Win 11 does have 'issues' with the game. They had an update that screwed over many games in the fall. If you check the community support forum you can find some possible solutions. Graphics engine choice, holding cores back, registry shennanigans, etc.
Last edited by jpcerutti; Apr 22 @ 4:49pm
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Shiro Apr 22 @ 7:01pm 
This game doesn't like the Windows 11 24H2 version. You can try in the launcher settings to switch from "DirectX 11" to "Vulkan" and see if you get any more crashes. (Worked for me)
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Cinemax Apr 22 @ 7:58pm 
DX11 has tradeoffs in games like Witcher 3 (no crashes, worse graphics) but in this game it shouldn't matter. 24H2 sucks.
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cyanoodle Apr 22 @ 8:56pm 
Originally posted by Shiro:
This game doesn't like the Windows 11 24H2 version. You can try in the launcher settings to switch from "DirectX 11" to "Vulkan" and see if you get any more crashes. (Worked for me)
Sadly vulcan I actually crash faster like within 1-2 minutes into playing rather than 5-10. This is a brand new pc too all drivers installed and all my other games work great sadly ck3 is the only one having issues like this..
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Cinemax Apr 22 @ 11:22pm 
Post a crash log from your my documents\paradox interactive\crusader kings 3\crashes\. If no crash log exists, post the last ~50 lines from debug in the general logfiles.
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cyanoodle Apr 23 @ 2:29am 
Originally posted by Cinemax:
Post a crash log from your my documents\paradox interactive\crusader kings 3\crashes\. If no crash log exists, post the last ~50 lines from debug in the general logfiles.

[06:10:55][E][jomini_script_system.cpp:284]: Script system error!
Error: play_sound_effect effect [ Scoped object is not valid. Type: null weak (Character - 4294967295)! ]
Script location: file: common/scripted_effects/00_scheme_scripted_effects.txt line: 381 (generic_scheme_process_ending_effect)
file: events/scheme_events/scheme_critical_moments_events.txt line: 1103 (scheme_critical_moments.1001:immediate)
file: events/scheme_events/scheme_critical_moments_events.txt line: 197 (scheme_critical_moments_0001_execute_scheme_default_flow_effect)
file: events/scheme_events/scheme_critical_moments_events.txt line: 719 (scheme_critical_moments.0002:option)

[06:10:55][E][jomini_script_system.cpp:284]: Script system error!
Error: add_secret effect [ Secret 'secret_lover' owned by 'Hermo Lowborn of (Internal ID 16786028)' targeting 'Outi Lowborn of (Internal ID 35597) weak (Character - 35597)!' was created but it is not valid, don't create an invalid secret, this will cause later errors ]
Script location: file: events/dlc/ep3/ep3_laamp_flavour_ewan_events.txt line: 10777 (ep3_laamp_flavour_ewan.2021:option)
file: events/dlc/ep3/ep3_laamp_flavour_ewan_events.txt line: 10889 (ep3_laamp_flavour_ewan.2022:immediate)

[06:10:56][E][jomini_script_system.cpp:284]: Script system error!
Error: appoint_court_position effect [ Employee has already hired max amount ]
Script location: file: common/scripted_effects/00_court_position_effects.txt line: 563 (court_position_grant_effect)
file: events/dlc/fp2/fp2_struggle_events.txt line: 2467 (fp2_struggle.1002:option)

[06:10:56][E][jomini_script_system.cpp:284]: Script system error!
Error: appoint_court_position effect [ Employee has already hired max amount ]
Script location: file: common/scripted_effects/00_court_position_effects.txt line: 563 (court_position_grant_effect)
file: common/scripted_effects/00_court_position_effects.txt line: 1246 (court_position_generator_assignment_effect)
file: events/interaction_events/character_interaction_events.txt line: 2170 (char_interaction.0350:immediate)

[06:10:57][E][jomini_script_system.cpp:284]: Script system error!
Error: Undefined event target 'bp2_yearly_1020_secret_to_reveal'
Script location: file: events/dlc/bp2/bp2_yearly_1_events.txt line: 2894 (bp2_yearly.1020:option)

[06:10:57][E][jomini_script_system.cpp:284]: Script system error!
Error: Event target link 'scope' returned an unset scope
Script location: file: events/dlc/bp2/bp2_yearly_1_events.txt line: 2894 (bp2_yearly.1020:option)

[06:10:57][E][jomini_script_system.cpp:284]: Script system error!
Error: reveal_to effect [ Wrong scope for effect: none, expected secret ]
Script location: file: events/dlc/bp2/bp2_yearly_1_events.txt line: 2894 (bp2_yearly.1020:option)

[06:11:04][E][jomini_script_system.cpp:284]: Script system error!
Error: save_scope_as effect [ Scoped object is not valid. Type: null weak (Character - 4294967295)! ]
Script location: file: common/on_action/war_on_actions.txt line: 1247 (on_war_won_attacker)
file: common/on_action/war_on_actions.txt line: 791 (on_war_won_attacker)
file: common/character_interactions/00_war.txt line: 569 (end_war_attacker_victory_interaction:on_accept)

[06:11:14][E][jomini_script_system.cpp:284]: Script system error!
Error: scope:scheme trigger [ Failed context switch ]
Script location: file: common/on_action/task_contract_on_actions.txt line: 41 (laamp_base_0001_contract_scheme_on_going_events:trigger)

[06:11:14][E][jomini_script_system.cpp:284]: Script system error!
Error: change_opportunities effect [ Invalid scheme 'laamp_base_1011_contract_scheme' with owner null and target ONCLICK:CHARACTER,10064 TOOLTIP:CHARACTER,10064 L Earl Leofwine of Huntingdonshire!!! ]
Script location: file: events/scheme_events/agent_events.txt line: 2744 (agent_events.2001:option)

[06:11:15][E][characterlocationdata.cpp:151]: Removing travel plan from the character Sif Lowborn of (Internal ID 16790709) owner when the travel plan is not ending normally.
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Cinemax Apr 23 @ 3:52pm 
That looks like error.log instead of debug.log but it also looks pretty weird. Um have you previously had mods installed, even if you don't at present? Also what is your game version and MP Checksum (this appears on the bottom right of the Main Menu screen)?
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cyanoodle Apr 23 @ 5:51pm 
Originally posted by Cinemax:
That looks like error.log instead of debug.log but it also looks pretty weird. Um have you previously had mods installed, even if you don't at present? Also what is your game version and MP Checksum (this appears on the bottom right of the Main Menu screen)?
I had mods on my previous computer. But this is a completely brand new PC. I'll post the other log here soon though!
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Cinemax Apr 23 @ 7:52pm 
Might as well ask this now - did your Documents folder get copied from your old computer to your new one, be it manually, via your Microsoft account, profile migration tool, whatever means, do you have files in Documents from your old PC?
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cyanoodle Apr 23 @ 8:37pm 
Originally posted by Cinemax:
Might as well ask this now - did your Documents folder get copied from your old computer to your new one, be it manually, via your Microsoft account, profile migration tool, whatever means, do you have files in Documents from your old PC?
Nope completly brand new sadly.
Saved event targets:
actor: Al-Muhtadi Abbasid of d_wasit (Internal ID: 7406 - Historical ID 34015) weak (Character - 7406)!
recipient: Al-Mu_tamid Abbasid of c_hulwan (Internal ID: 8381 - Historical ID 34016) weak (Character - 8381)!
secondary_actor: Lala Abbasid of (Internal ID 16791240) weak (Character - 16791240)!
secondary_recipient: Al-Mu_tamid Abbasid of c_hulwan (Internal ID: 8381 - Historical ID 34016) weak (Character - 8381)!
intermediary: null weak (Character - 4294967295)!
hook: no
hostage_sender: Al-Muhtadi Abbasid of d_wasit (Internal ID: 7406 - Historical ID 34015) weak (Character - 7406)!
hostage: Lala Abbasid of (Internal ID 16791240) weak (Character - 16791240)!
hostage_taker: Al-Mu_tamid Abbasid of c_hulwan (Internal ID: 8381 - Historical ID 34016) weak (Character - 8381)!
current_guardian_scope: Ahmad Abbasid of b_al-qatr (Internal ID: 7984 - Historical ID extra_abbasids_14) weak (Character - 7984)!
hostage_warden: Al-Mu_tamid Abbasid of c_hulwan (Internal ID: 8381 - Historical ID 34016) weak (Character - 8381)!
hostage_home_court: Al-Muhtadi Abbasid of d_wasit (Internal ID: 7406 - Historical ID 34015) weak (Character - 7406)!

[06:11:15][D][struggle_phase.cpp:231]: Triggered catalyst catalyst_became_friend_lover_supporter_detractor progressing phase struggle_persia_ending_phase_concession by 1
[06:11:15][D][struggle_phase.cpp:231]: Triggered catalyst catalyst_passing_of_time progressing phase struggle_iberia_phase_hostility by 1
[06:11:15][D][struggle_phase.cpp:231]: Triggered catalyst catalyst_passing_of_time progressing phase struggle_persia_ending_phase_concession by 1
[06:11:15][D][struggle_phase.cpp:231]: Triggered catalyst catalyst_yearly_influential_house_is_antagonistic_minor progressing phase struggle_persia_phase_unrest by 3
[06:11:15][D][gamestate_persistence.cpp:204]: Savegame time 0
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[06:11:15][D][gamestate_persistence.cpp:204]: Savegame time 0
[06:11:15][D][jomini_effect_impl.cpp:446]: file: common/character_interactions/00_diarch_interactions.txt line: 6892 (diarch_swing_scales_currency_interaction:on_accept): A diarch swung the Scales of Power against their liege
[06:11:15][D][jomini_effect_impl.cpp:446]: file: common/story_cycles/bp2_story_cycle_imaginary_friend.txt line: 15 (story_cycle_imaginary_friend:on_end): Imaginary Friend story ended on:
[06:11:15][D][effectimpl.cpp:922]: DATE: yes - 883.1.2
[06:11:15][E][characterlocationdata.cpp:151]: Removing travel plan from the character Sif Lowborn of (Internal ID 16790709) owner when the travel plan is not ending normally.
[06:11:15][D][army_manager.cpp:2552]: Created MAA regiment: 'TOOLTIP:MEN_AT_ARMS_TYPE,armored_footmen L; Armored Footmen!!' (Internal ID: '12315' - Type: 'unknown' )
[06:11:15][D][army_manager.cpp:2552]: Created MAA regiment: 'TOOLTIP:MEN_AT_ARMS_TYPE,armored_footmen L; Armored Footmen!!' (Internal ID: '12316' - Type: 'unknown' )
[06:11:15][D][army_manager.cpp:2552]: Created MAA regiment: 'TOOLTIP:MEN_AT_ARMS_TYPE,bowmen L; Bowmen!!' (Internal ID: '12317' - Type: 'unknown' )
[06:11:15][D][army_manager.cpp:2635]: Destroying regiment: 'TOOLTIP:MEN_AT_ARMS_TYPE,horse_archers L; Horse Archers!!' (Internal ID: '33565497' - Type: 'personal' )
[06:11:15][D][army_manager.cpp:2552]: Created MAA regiment: 'TOOLTIP:MEN_AT_ARMS_TYPE,horn_warrior L; Horn Warriors!!' (Internal ID: '50342713' - Type: 'unknown' )
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freezray Apr 23 @ 8:56pm 
Yeah I was having all kinds of issues after I got the windows update. At first it was constant crashing then I did a clean install and updated all my drivers. That just made it so the game would freeze and I would literally have to restart my computer to regain control. Eventually(as in a couple days ago) it just started working normally again so I really have no clue what the issue.

That said, because I haven't seen this question asked, have you tried playing on the absolute lowest settings possible? Just to see if that made any difference?
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Cinemax Apr 23 @ 9:16pm 
Seems fine. Grab the MP checksum from the main menu just to see if we're dealing with any file corruption (or Kernelmode issues). Assuming that's good here's two things to try:

1. Get rid of the PDX launcher - sometimes it breaks things.
Edit game properties in the launch options section add the following:
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Crusader Kings III\binaries\ck3.exe" %command%
(Assuming the game is installed on C: drive, that is, note quotation marks and the space between last " and first %).

2. Rebuild shader cache and terrain cache.
In .\Documents\Paradox Interactive\Crusader Kings III\ rename folder shadercache to shadercache.bak and terraincache to terraincache.bak

When you relaunch the game be sure to start a fresh run instead of loading a save.
Last edited by Cinemax; Apr 23 @ 9:17pm
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