CK3 crashes on save

[José]

My CK3 crashes sometimes when accessing the "save" option. I have mods installed. Could anyone help me solve my problem?

[Slowdive]

Originally posted by Deylendor:

Originally posted by Slowdive:

Had a very long session yesterday with alot of autosaves and manual saves, try this
1. Add ck3 to windows security exclusions
2. Activate automatic pagefile management from the advanced settings, restart pc
3. Put autosave interval 1 year

Thanks for the headsup!

I will change the pagefile management first and see if this change alone does the trick.
If this doesn't help I'll try to fiddle with its Windows security setting, even if it sounds unwise as F.

Yea i don't like it either.

I don't know about you but i haven't had any crashes since

[Deylendor]

Today I've had a long session which ended WITHOUT crashing for the first time since wards and wardens.
The game itself even felt less laggy.

What did I do?
I've disabled my old fixed set sized swap file ( page file ) on my HDD and enabled a system managed swap file on my SSD where Crusader Kings 3 is installed.

Even though I have 16GB of ram and CK3 barely scratches at 10, this funky game needs you to have a swap file enabled...

I had it. But the game crashed when the swap file was on a HDD.

Testing results::
- CK3 on HDD :: SWAP File on HDD -----> Sporadic Autosave Crashing.
- CK3 on SSD :: SWAP File on HDD -----> Sporadic Autosave Crashing.
- CK3 on SSD :: SWAP File on SSD with its size set to system managed ----> No crashes in 8h

FINALLY. It's been to long. CK3 without autosave crashes.
All thanks to Slowdive who helped us pooling our resources about this issue.

TL:DR
CK3 needs you to have a system managed swap/page file enabled on the drive of its installation. Possibly both game AND swap file on the same SSD drive.

[Barney]

Originally posted by Deylendor:

Originally posted by Virulant:

I was very dubious as to what you said as I've never once had a crash on this game although I only have 200 hrs.

So i tested what you said, autosave every month, 867 start observer mode, speed 5. Well I just closed the game after watching it complete my autosave for 2nd January 900AD.

If I had to guess as you are the 2 having the issue and you both use mods that its the mods. I'm sure you know that you would have to go and manually make sure ALL remnants of the mods you installed have been deleted. I'm afraid your machine is (for lack of a better word, no offence though) tainted and nothing on it can be classed as a "fresh install" unless you start from the ground up from the operating system and even then you cannot use any backups to bring your system back up to date, just official, current patches and drivers etc.

Your guess is wrong.

Ever since ward and wardens I've seen the instability of the game. Prior, none.
Mods? None.
System issues? Always possible, but illuminate us what driver issues contribute to save/autosave crashes that only start as one progresses its game for few years.

This reeks of a memory leak issue and the only reason some people don't encounter it has to with our differences how/where we play.

I'd LOVE to have your version of the game with no crashes.

NONE OF WHAT YOU SAYS MATTERS BECAUSE THE GAME DEVELOPERS DONT GIVE A ♥♥♥♥ ABOUT US, THOSE ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ PIECES OF ♥♥♥♥, HOPE THEY ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ DIE

[Deylendor]

Originally posted by Barney:

NONE OF WHAT YOU SAYS MATTERS BECAUSE THE GAME DEVELOPERS DONT GIVE A ♥♥♥♥ ABOUT US, THOSE ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ PIECES OF ♥♥♥♥, HOPE THEY ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ DIE

Dude...

The issue was identified and solved.
Chill.

[Rhaeven]

Originally posted by Deylendor:

Today I've had a long session which ended WITHOUT crashing for the first time since wards and wardens.
The game itself even felt less laggy.

What did I do?
I've disabled my old fixed set sized swap file ( page file ) on my HDD and enabled a system managed swap file on my SSD where Crusader Kings 3 is installed.

Even though I have 16GB of ram and CK3 barely scratches at 10, this funky game needs you to have a swap file enabled...

I had it. But the game crashed when the swap file was on a HDD.

Testing results::
- CK3 on HDD :: SWAP File on HDD -----> Sporadic Autosave Crashing.
- CK3 on SSD :: SWAP File on HDD -----> Sporadic Autosave Crashing.
- CK3 on SSD :: SWAP File on SSD with its size set to system managed ----> No crashes in 8h

FINALLY. It's been to long. CK3 without autosave crashes.
All thanks to Slowdive who helped us pooling our resources about this issue.

TL:DR
CK3 needs you to have a system managed swap/page file enabled on the drive of its installation. Possibly both game AND swap file on the same SSD drive.

Can you explain how you did this? I've always had CK3 on an SSD and I have no HDDs, been crashing sporadically during autosaves for a few weeks now.

[Deylendor]

Originally posted by Rhaeven:

Originally posted by Deylendor:

Today I've had a long session which ended WITHOUT crashing for the first time since wards and wardens.
The game itself even felt less laggy.

What did I do?
I've disabled my old fixed set sized swap file ( page file ) on my HDD and enabled a system managed swap file on my SSD where Crusader Kings 3 is installed.

Even though I have 16GB of ram and CK3 barely scratches at 10, this funky game needs you to have a swap file enabled...

I had it. But the game crashed when the swap file was on a HDD.

Testing results::
- CK3 on HDD :: SWAP File on HDD -----> Sporadic Autosave Crashing.
- CK3 on SSD :: SWAP File on HDD -----> Sporadic Autosave Crashing.
- CK3 on SSD :: SWAP File on SSD with its size set to system managed ----> No crashes in 8h

FINALLY. It's been to long. CK3 without autosave crashes.
All thanks to Slowdive who helped us pooling our resources about this issue.

TL:DR
CK3 needs you to have a system managed swap/page file enabled on the drive of its installation. Possibly both game AND swap file on the same SSD drive.

Can you explain how you did this? I've always had CK3 on an SSD and I have no HDDs, been crashing sporadically during autosaves for a few weeks now.

It varies slightly depending on your OS.

Just google how to set up a swap file. Make sure you do it on the drive letter of the SSD you have CK3 installed and set it to WINDSOWS MANAGED. Apply and your OS will ask you to restart. Done.

[Syn Jezusa]

Originally posted by Deylendor:

Originally posted by Rhaeven:

Can you explain how you did this? I've always had CK3 on an SSD and I have no HDDs, been crashing sporadically during autosaves for a few weeks now.

It varies slightly depending on your OS.

Just google how to set up a swap file. Make sure you do it on the drive letter of the SSD you have CK3 installed and set it to WINDSOWS MANAGED. Apply and your OS will ask you to restart. Done. [/.


Hey guys, I did everything as you described and I still have a crash on save. I'm sick of it. Do you have any other ideas?

[GꝏmbaGurl]

Originally posted by Deylendor:

It is even testable.

New game.
Tun the game in observer mode on speed 5 and autosaves set to each month.
You will crash within the first 10 years,
Each and every time.

EDIT:
Doing this while using BETA braches the last stable build seems to be :
1.8.2 Fate of Iberia - Before Tours and Tournaments

They mucked up something fierce in their save system.

EDIT:
- Fixed the issue by assigning a windows managed SWAP/PAGE file on the drive of the CK3 installation. In my case i had to put BOTH game and page file on the same SSD. Putting both on a HDD or the game on SSD while page file on HDD lead to sporadic autosave crashes.

Not sure if this will fix the problem for me? I'm having the same constant issue... ever since installation of Legends of the Dead expansion. But my system is 64GB of RAM. I doubt the game is using THAT much??? How big was your swap file? How much RAM you have?

EDIT: I did as you said... and did a fresh install and deleted all user files (saves etc) and the game still crashes. Damn.... this is messed up. Any other suggestions?

For feedback, I used to play this game for hours and rarely-if-ever had a crash playing without the latest update (Legends of the Dead). I've never done any kind of modding. I deleted the User files so it's a fresh install of the game. I have the PC managed swap set up on the hard drive with the game installation and it's on a MVe 2.0 SSD. 64GB RAM, RTX 4070... There is really no reason other than poor developer patches that should cause these issues. I'm not sure if I can get a refund on the latest content (or if that will even fix the issue), but I'll see if I can disable the content?

I just loaded the fresh game and went to setup my settings and clicking accept crashed the game. :(((

[Syn Jezusa]

Originally posted by Rhaeven:

Originally posted by Deylendor:

Today I've had a long session which ended WITHOUT crashing for the first time since wards and wardens.
The game itself even felt less laggy.

What did I do?
I've disabled my old fixed set sized swap file ( page file ) on my HDD and enabled a system managed swap file on my SSD where Crusader Kings 3 is installed.

Even though I have 16GB of ram and CK3 barely scratches at 10, this funky game needs you to have a swap file enabled...

I had it. But the game crashed when the swap file was on a HDD.

Testing results::
- CK3 on HDD :: SWAP File on HDD -----> Sporadic Autosave Crashing.
- CK3 on SSD :: SWAP File on HDD -----> Sporadic Autosave Crashing.
- CK3 on SSD :: SWAP File on SSD with its size set to system managed ----> No crashes in 8h

FINALLY. It's been to long. CK3 without autosave crashes.
All thanks to Slowdive who helped us pooling our resources about this issue.

TL:DR
CK3 needs you to have a system managed swap/page file enabled on the drive of its installation. Possibly both game AND swap file on the same SSD drive.

Can you explain how you did this? I've always had CK3 on an SSD and I have no HDDs, been crashing sporadically during autosaves for a few weeks now.

I also using only SSD and i have the same problem. How much RAM do you have?

[Amalgam]

It appears it is not problem with the game, but actually with steam itself.

After a long play and monthly saves (because crashes sometimes happens on autosave or even randomly). I noticed the game crashes every monthly autosave. After turning on the game again, it was going ok for the last month I lost +1 additional month and crashed again.

I finally got curious and found this topic.
But before I tried anything what others tried, I checked something more simple.

I did the same some other times before, but I was lazy enough to not bother myself if it's connected.
Today (and a few other times before at different days) with the game also steam crashed, without any warning, pop up, alert, anything, just shut down completely.
And that is exactly when the game starts to run without crashes again.
Seeing it today I though about other times and yes, I did close steam myself and turned it on to help with the issue.

[RonanRein]

Originally posted by Amalgam:

It appears it is not problem with the game, but actually with steam itself.

After a long play and monthly saves (because crashes sometimes happens on autosave or even randomly). I noticed the game crashes every monthly autosave. After turning on the game again, it was going ok for the last month I lost +1 additional month and crashed again.

I finally got curious and found this topic.
But before I tried anything what others tried, I checked something more simple.

I did the same some other times before, but I was lazy enough to not bother myself if it's connected.
Today (and a few other times before at different days) with the game also steam crashed, without any warning, pop up, alert, anything, just shut down completely.
And that is exactly when the game starts to run without crashes again.
Seeing it today I though about other times and yes, I did close steam myself and turned it on to help with the issue.

Sometimes, when the game crashes, my Steam crashes too. Maybe there is really a problem with the Steam, but I don't think that's the only cause. I've tried launching the game directly by using the CK3.exe file. It seams like the game runs a bit more stable, but still crashes after a couple of months (couple of savings).

[RonanRein]

Originally posted by Deylendor:

Today I've had a long session which ended WITHOUT crashing for the first time since wards and wardens.
The game itself even felt less laggy.

What did I do?
I've disabled my old fixed set sized swap file ( page file ) on my HDD and enabled a system managed swap file on my SSD where Crusader Kings 3 is installed.

Even though I have 16GB of ram and CK3 barely scratches at 10, this funky game needs you to have a swap file enabled...

I had it. But the game crashed when the swap file was on a HDD.

Testing results::
- CK3 on HDD :: SWAP File on HDD -----> Sporadic Autosave Crashing.
- CK3 on SSD :: SWAP File on HDD -----> Sporadic Autosave Crashing.
- CK3 on SSD :: SWAP File on SSD with its size set to system managed ----> No crashes in 8h

FINALLY. It's been to long. CK3 without autosave crashes.
All thanks to Slowdive who helped us pooling our resources about this issue.

TL:DR
CK3 needs you to have a system managed swap/page file enabled on the drive of its installation. Possibly both game AND swap file on the same SSD drive.

I've tried to follow this advice, and this is the way how did it work for me:
SWAP File on the DISK where you installed your CK3 with its size set to system managed ---> Switch off your Steam App ---> Run CK3 directly using the CK3.exe file. ---> I had no crashes for couple of days already.

I would like to draw your attention:
If you have your CK3 instaled on the DISK D (etc.) so you have to manage SWAP File on the DISK D. I mean directly to the disk on which it is installed.

I still do not know if it works with Steam App on... For the last days I play only with Steam App switched off.

[Deylendor]

It seems still to be an issue for some people.

I haven't had any crashes since moving my CK3 to a SSD partition and enabling a system managed swap file there.

Would kinda stink if the developers patched the game into incompatibility with systems without SSDs when those aren't listed as a requirement on the steam store.

[SirSmackALot]

Thank you for solving this problem!!! It is amazing that I've had this issue for many month now... and the development teams haven't addressed the issues. But, moving the page file onto the installation drive and also closing steam and running directly from the executable has solved the issue for me.