Who do you put on your council?

[Flybox]

Just a general question: do you favor powerful vassals or people who are best at the job?

[vortex_13]

I will put powerful vassals on the council unless they are particularly terrible. If you have every stat below 10 you aren't getting a council position.

[Emperor2000]

Originally posted by Flybox:

Just a general question: do you favor powerful vassals or people who are best at the job?

Always pick the best, or you will get trouble.

I personally never appoint a character below a skill of 30.

[dwarfpcfan]

I put powerful vassals on the council unless said powerful vassal is not able to do any council job adequately, at which point they can stew on their anger at not being on the council.

[jotwebe]

Early in the reign it's mostly the powerful, later I'll go by capability. I like to use my heir to give them a leg up on prestige, Spymaster is special, I'll look at personality, whether they gain from killing my ruler or heirs.

[LeDawn2015]

I tend to prefer people stat level 12 or above. I have found that a strong council can help me build to replace angry power vassals AND help my realm prosper. However, sometimes you have to work with what you got and try to build out powerful alliances. So I guess I do a mix of long and short strategies.

[DanielHall15]

My horse, of course.

[Itsuji Hayashi]

i play with loverslab mods.

only virgins with the biggest tits and hottest looks.

[CrUsHeR]

Kind of depends. But why would i put a powerful vassal with 0-7 skills in all categories on the council, when i have other candidates with 20-30?

Especially for Temporal faiths with free appointment, your landed vassals can get like 50 Learning for the realm priest job. There's no way anyone with less than, say 20 gets that instead.



Also if an angry powerful vassal seems to be a problem, there are other ways to remove them from factions. Example marriage alliances, or if possible make them the vassal of another vassal, then you'll never from them again (while the other guy is much more happy)

The only thing i'd recommend is that the councillor should be landed at Count+ rank if anyhow possible, because barons and unlanded characters cannot improve their skills any further from lifestyle and other ruler-only sources.

[Emperor2000]

Originally posted by CrUsHeR:

Kind of depends. But why would i put a powerful vassal with 0-7 skills in all categories on the council, when i have other candidates with 20-30?

Especially for Temporal faiths with free appointment, your landed vassals can get like 50 Learning for the realm priest job. There's no way anyone with less than, say 20 gets that instead.



Also if an angry powerful vassal seems to be a problem, there are other ways to remove them from factions. Example marriage alliances, or if possible make them the vassal of another vassal, then you'll never from them again (while the other guy is much more happy)

The only thing i'd recommend is that the councillor should be landed at Count+ rank if anyhow possible, because barons and unlanded characters cannot improve their skills any further from lifestyle and other ruler-only sources.

Barons and unlanded Characters can improve their Skills.

You only have to own T&T and your unlanded Heir will become a better Marshal, than any landed Vassal will be.
(Because you have full control, which Activities they visit).

[CrUsHeR]

Originally posted by Emperor2000:

Barons and unlanded Characters can improve their Skills.

You only have to own T&T and your unlanded Heir will become a better Marshal, than any landed Vassal will be.
(Because you have full control, which Activities they visit).

That isn't correct. This is what the wiki says:

https://ck3.paradoxwikis.com/Lifestyle

"Characters must be landed or heirs to gain lifestyle experience and can buy perks even if unlanded."

However, you can see that unlanded characters and barons can never actually select a lifestyle until they become landed with at least Count rank.

The lifestyle icon is displayed next to their portrait, they only pick one when becoming landed. Should happen no later than the next monthly pulse.


For your heir it works the same as for any other character - if they were unlanded, then once you get to play them they simply receive a certain amount of perks in a random lifestyle. I think this only depends on their age, same like ruler designer characters (they get iirc 1 perk for every 3 years above 16?)

Barons can also definitely NOT pursue a lifestyle.




And you can very simply verify this within the game.

As mentioned, landed characters of Count+ rank have the same lifestyle button on their portrait as your ruler, while barons and courtiers etc. don't.

They even lose their lifestyle focus if they are no longer landed.

[Emperor2000]

Originally posted by CrUsHeR:

Originally posted by Emperor2000:

Barons and unlanded Characters can improve their Skills.

You only have to own T&T and your unlanded Heir will become a better Marshal, than any landed Vassal will be.
(Because you have full control, which Activities they visit).

That isn't correct. This is what the wiki says:

https://ck3.paradoxwikis.com/Lifestyle

"Characters must be landed or heirs to gain lifestyle experience and can buy perks even if unlanded."

However, you can see that unlanded characters and barons can never actually select a lifestyle until they become landed with at least Count rank.

The lifestyle icon is displayed next to their portrait, they only pick one when becoming landed. Should happen no later than the next monthly pulse.


For your heir it works the same as for any other character - if they were unlanded, then once you get to play them they simply receive a certain amount of perks in a random lifestyle. I think this only depends on their age, same like ruler designer characters (they get iirc 1 perk for every 3 years above 16?)

Barons can also definitely NOT pursue a lifestyle.




And you can very simply verify this within the game.

As mentioned, landed characters of Count+ rank have the same lifestyle button on their portrait as your ruler, while barons and courtiers etc. don't.

They even lose their lifestyle focus if they are no longer landed.

Has anything on my Post to do with Lifestyles and their XP gain.

I wrote about unlanded Characters and Barons are getting skill improvements via the new Activities and Traits.


And if you don't have the T&T DLC, then it is your loss, because it is the best DLC, they have ever released and the only DLC, in which unlanded Heirs can become better than any landed Count or above.

Lifestyles have no longer an impact on the Game, at least no longer on Skill gain.

[CrUsHeR]

Honestly, T&T is the crappiest and most meaningless DLC i could possibly imagine. Activities play the same five events up and down, and it changes literally nothing the players have been asking for since release. 95% of the world is still in vanilla status after so many years.

Originally posted by Emperor2000:

Lifestyles have no longer an impact on the Game, at least no longer on Skill gain.

o_O

You mean like a Marshal taking the Strategist Lifestyle which gives them +3 Martial skill, and then gets the Strategist perk for another +3 Martial and +1 Diplomacy?

Or Learning which gives the same +6 primary skill, and fun stuff like "+20% skills from all councillors" or "+2 learning per level of devotion" ?




You know what, Emperor2000 - I'm starting to believe you're not just a troll, but simply an idiot. Literally everything you've posted in these threads has turned out to be completely false. And most of this is so simple to fact-check in the wiki or the game.

[Karsh]

most of times my own kids XD (or brothers and sisters)

i get enough to try adn get every counciller slot to try and get them as high as possible

otherwise people with the highest stat.

[Rialm]

People who do their job for the best, specially if it's a spymaster or chancellor. But rarely I put my vassals. I prefer to find others means to get them to like me.

edit: It has always been a issue when an idiot from the republic want to be on the council, bro I can fire you. I know that republic/populist does not have much effect. but it's so annoying because they don't have nothing which I could consider them as powerful.

[Emperor2000]

Originally posted by CrUsHeR:

Honestly, T&T is the crappiest and most meaningless DLC i could possibly imagine. Activities play the same five events up and down, and it changes literally nothing the players have been asking for since release. 95% of the world is still in vanilla status after so many years.

Originally posted by Emperor2000:

Lifestyles have no longer an impact on the Game, at least no longer on Skill gain.

o_O

You mean like a Marshal taking the Strategist Lifestyle which gives them +3 Martial skill, and then gets the Strategist perk for another +3 Martial and +1 Diplomacy?

Or Learning which gives the same +6 primary skill, and fun stuff like "+20% skills from all councillors" or "+2 learning per level of devotion" ?




You know what, Emperor2000 - I'm starting to believe you're not just a troll, but simply an idiot. Literally everything you've posted in these threads has turned out to be completely false. And most of this is so simple to fact-check in the wiki or the game.

The only Idiot, I see are you, because you ignore the fact that a character can be far better without the Lifestyles Traits and with Tournaments and Travels only, via the Hastiluder Trait or Traveller Trait and many other T&T DLC Traits.
(Characters, landed or unlanded, can become a lot better through Travelling and Activities than through Lifestyles Focus).


And saying T&T is the worst DLC, does in fact strenghten my Opinion over you being an Idiot, because it is the best DLC they ever released.


And by the way, Characters even when unlanded can gain Lifestyle XP, but they can not buy Perks with it, for this you only have to host a lot of Grand Weddings as an example with your Court and to check your save file and you will see that mostly all attended unlanded Characters have gotten some Lifestyle XP.