Someone rebelled me and cant revoke his titles even though he is in my prison after i won the war wth is this bs

[Ozan]

Bs needs to be changed what lord would wait for a truce to end to take the rebel's lands

[Steffan]

We will need more details. What is your governance (administrative, feudal...)? Is revocation of titles even allowed in your game?

Worst case scenario you can leave him rot there or force him into an alliance with a weak hook if you have marriage ties.

[Ozan]

Originally posted by steffan8:

We will need more details. What is your governance (administrative, feudal...)? Is revocation of titles even allowed in your game?

Worst case scenario you can leave him rot there or force him into an alliance with a weak hook if you have marriage ties.

It says i cant revoke because of truce while he is in my prison. Its feudal and i can revoke other titles

[JesseEJ]

just wait for the truce? its not like he is going anywhere

[Lera]

Originally posted by Ozan:

Originally posted by steffan8:

We will need more details. What is your governance (administrative, feudal...)? Is revocation of titles even allowed in your game?

Worst case scenario you can leave him rot there or force him into an alliance with a weak hook if you have marriage ties.

It says i cant revoke because of truce while he is in my prison. Its feudal and i can revoke other titles

Then wait until the truce is over?
Bro the amount of people making stupid threads about common sense issues lately is insane

[Ozan]

Originally posted by Lera:

Originally posted by Ozan:

It says i cant revoke because of truce while he is in my prison. Its feudal and i can revoke other titles

Then wait until the truce is over?
Bro the amount of people making stupid threads about common sense issues lately is insane

Its a meaningless mechanic tell me a king that captures rebel lord and doesnt take their land ur bengali dont talk about stu9pidity and common sense

[Ozan]

Originally posted by JesseEJ:

just wait for the truce? its not like he is going anywhere

Mechanic doesnt make sense

[Khan Boyzitbig of Mercia]

Unless you want his titles you could just banish him, but you should be allowed to revoke a rebel's titles at least once after a war regardless of truce.

[Bishi]

Execute him and fabricate a claim on his son like a real man. Or several other ways to get a
vassal's land in a generation or two like marriage or espionage.

Sounds to me land was the ultimate goal and you warred this guy in the first place for it, but due to your cb of choice he became a vassal. Got to have that instant gratification, amirite?

[captain403]

Originally posted by Bishi:

Execute him and fabricate a claim on his son like a real man. Or several other ways to get a
vassal's land in a generation or two like marriage or espionage.

Sounds to me land was the ultimate goal and you warred this guy in the first place for it, but due to your cb of choice he became a vassal. Got to have that instant gratification, amirite?

Some people have sucj low reading comprehension it staggers belief. If you read the BIG BOLD TITLE you will see that the problem war was a rebellion against the (liege) player. So no, you are not 'rite'

TBH, a rebellion of any sort should void any truce. But this is P'dox, where arresting a murderer is considered tyrannical.

[Bishi]

Originally posted by captain403:

Originally posted by Bishi:

Execute him and fabricate a claim on his son like a real man. Or several other ways to get a
vassal's land in a generation or two like marriage or espionage.

Sounds to me land was the ultimate goal and you warred this guy in the first place for it, but due to your cb of choice he became a vassal. Got to have that instant gratification, amirite?

Some people have sucj low reading comprehension it staggers belief. If you read the BIG BOLD TITLE you will see that the problem war was a rebellion against the (liege) player. So no, you are not 'rite'

TBH, a rebellion of any sort should void any truce. But this is P'dox, where arresting a murderer is considered tyrannical.

No. I am right. How does a vassal typically even get a truce from a player? The truce is from your aggression, not theirs. I.e. revoke a criminal's title, cause a civil war, end it and oyou can revoke the title while they are in prison. Why is it the case? Because the rebellion is a war against you so the a truc e isn't forced upon you because you weren't the aggressor. So OP had to have done something for a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ truce to be there in the first place. No game knowledge scrub trying to lecture me. ♥♥♥♥ off.

[captain403]

Originally posted by Bishi:

No. I am right. How does a vassal typically even get a truce from a player? The truce is from your aggression, not theirs. I.e. revoke a criminal's title, cause a civil war, end it and oyou can revoke the title while they are in prison. Why is it the case? Because the rebellion is a war against you so the a truc e isn't forced upon you because you weren't the aggressor. So OP had to have done something for a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ truce to be there in the first place. No game knowledge scrub trying to lecture me. ♥♥♥♥ off.

So you are saying a truce carries through a rebellion? That's just frikken moronic. You rebel, you lose ALL guarantees etc; at least in any sane world.

[Bishi]

Originally posted by captain403:

Originally posted by Bishi:

No. I am right. How does a vassal typically even get a truce from a player? The truce is from your aggression, not theirs. I.e. revoke a criminal's title, cause a civil war, end it and oyou can revoke the title while they are in prison. Why is it the case? Because the rebellion is a war against you so the a truc e isn't forced upon you because you weren't the aggressor. So OP had to have done something for a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ truce to be there in the first place. No game knowledge scrub trying to lecture me. ♥♥♥♥ off.

So you are saying a truce carries through a rebellion? That's just frikken moronic. You rebel, you lose ALL guarantees etc; at least in any sane world.

Not in this game. Which, btw, I am not defending, just stating mechanics.

Edit: Perhaps very rudely, for which I apologize to you both.

[CrUsHeR]

If the vassal rebelled, you won the war as defender and he went into your prison, you shouldn't have a truce with him. Unless you did something else before to create the truce.

[captain403]

Originally posted by Bishi:

Originally posted by captain403:

So you are saying a truce carries through a rebellion? That's just frikken moronic. You rebel, you lose ALL guarantees etc; at least in any sane world.

Not in this game. Which, btw, I am not defending, just stating mechanics.

So I go back to my original comment. The problem is the rebellion should void the truce; if it doesn't there is a problem. And as such you still aren't 'rite'

[captain403]

Originally posted by CrUsHeR:

Unless you did something else before to create the truce.

The rebellion should have voided ANY truce, regardless of the cause of it.